1 00:00:06,590 --> 00:00:03,830 hi everybody welcome to NASA's Kennedy 2 00:00:08,270 --> 00:00:06,600 Space Center and the NASA social for the 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:08,280 launch of the twin radiation belt storm 4 00:00:12,950 --> 00:00:10,530 probes i'm jason townsend from the NASA 5 00:00:14,870 --> 00:00:12,960 social media team today is part two of 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:14,880 the NASA social yesterday we had a great 7 00:00:19,310 --> 00:00:16,650 tour of the facilities here at Kennedy 8 00:00:20,540 --> 00:00:19,320 we also had an exciting video call with 9 00:00:21,830 --> 00:00:20,550 the International Space Station where 10 00:00:24,050 --> 00:00:21,840 five of the folks who are in this room 11 00:00:25,519 --> 00:00:24,060 today along with nine of the folks from 12 00:00:27,259 --> 00:00:25,529 across the Twittersphere had the 13 00:00:28,580 --> 00:00:27,269 opportunity to ask their questions of 14 00:00:30,950 --> 00:00:28,590 the astronauts who are living off this 15 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:30,960 planet but before we start going to too 16 00:00:34,459 --> 00:00:32,250 much detail for the benefit of the 17 00:00:37,340 --> 00:00:34,469 viewers who are at home on NASA TV just 18 00:00:39,139 --> 00:00:37,350 what is a NASA social well a NASA social 19 00:00:41,750 --> 00:00:39,149 really is all about taking the online 20 00:00:43,639 --> 00:00:41,760 world offline we invite our followers 21 00:00:45,500 --> 00:00:43,649 our fans and the social media community 22 00:00:47,900 --> 00:00:45,510 to have members come out here to the 23 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:47,910 NASA facilities we hope that they take 24 00:00:51,410 --> 00:00:49,410 part in these special events where we 25 00:00:52,939 --> 00:00:51,420 give them access to facilities and meet 26 00:00:55,189 --> 00:00:52,949 our passionate employees that most folks 27 00:00:57,170 --> 00:00:55,199 don't get the chance to do but we also 28 00:00:59,479 --> 00:00:57,180 hope they take this opportunity to share 29 00:01:02,029 --> 00:00:59,489 all about NASA with all of their 30 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:02,039 followers online using social media and 31 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:04,170 it doesn't stop here now in this room 32 00:01:08,210 --> 00:01:06,210 we're continuing on with more social 33 00:01:11,210 --> 00:01:08,220 media events out there just recently 34 00:01:13,070 --> 00:01:11,220 announced is the next NASA social at the 35 00:01:15,260 --> 00:01:13,080 Goldstone deep space communications 36 00:01:18,170 --> 00:01:15,270 complex in California's Mojave Desert on 37 00:01:20,030 --> 00:01:18,180 October 15 2012 you can find out more 38 00:01:25,249 --> 00:01:20,040 about this and the NASA social program 39 00:01:28,070 --> 00:01:25,259 at WWDC gov slash social but back to 40 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:28,080 today we hope you're following along 41 00:01:33,859 --> 00:01:30,329 online by following @nasa 42 00:01:36,499 --> 00:01:33,869 and at our bee storm probes on Twitter 43 00:01:38,569 --> 00:01:36,509 and that you like NASA and the radiation 44 00:01:41,090 --> 00:01:38,579 belt storm probes pages on Facebook and 45 00:01:43,609 --> 00:01:41,100 that you follow NASA on your circles in 46 00:01:44,929 --> 00:01:43,619 Google+ and if you want to follow or 47 00:01:47,179 --> 00:01:44,939 join the conversation online you're 48 00:01:49,730 --> 00:01:47,189 welcome to do so at any time by using 49 00:01:52,399 --> 00:01:49,740 the pound rbsp hashtag for the mission 50 00:01:55,340 --> 00:01:52,409 and pound NASA social for the today's 51 00:01:56,539 --> 00:01:55,350 event in today's televised event we're 52 00:01:57,770 --> 00:01:56,549 bringing to you some of the behind the 53 00:01:59,539 --> 00:01:57,780 scenes information about the twin 54 00:02:01,819 --> 00:01:59,549 radiation belt storm probes satellites 55 00:02:03,530 --> 00:02:01,829 we hope you'll learn more about the 56 00:02:05,530 --> 00:02:03,540 mission as it seeks to explore the Van 57 00:02:07,730 --> 00:02:05,540 Allen radiation belts around the earth 58 00:02:09,710 --> 00:02:07,740 rbsp is scheduled to launch tomorrow 59 00:02:12,470 --> 00:02:09,720 morning in the early hours of Friday at 60 00:02:13,850 --> 00:02:12,480 4:07 a.m. Eastern Time aboard a ula 61 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:13,860 Atlas 5 rocket from 62 00:02:17,330 --> 00:02:15,930 right here in Florida today you'll hear 63 00:02:18,860 --> 00:02:17,340 from a variety of different folks who 64 00:02:20,930 --> 00:02:18,870 each have a unique perspective on this 65 00:02:22,910 --> 00:02:20,940 mission from the hands-on science work 66 00:02:24,650 --> 00:02:22,920 to the big picture view of America's 67 00:02:26,660 --> 00:02:24,660 space program and how this mission fits 68 00:02:27,140 --> 00:02:26,670 into it these speakers are part of this 69 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:27,150 event 70 00:02:36,920 --> 00:02:34,650 social which were formerly called NASA 71 00:02:38,510 --> 00:02:36,930 Tweetup s-- we're building on the recent 72 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:38,520 success from earlier this month with the 73 00:02:43,580 --> 00:02:40,530 first for NASA it was the first ever 74 00:02:45,650 --> 00:02:43,590 NASA social happening at seven different 75 00:02:47,570 --> 00:02:45,660 facilities at once occurring 76 00:02:49,190 --> 00:02:47,580 simultaneously where we all came 77 00:02:50,449 --> 00:02:49,200 together for an incredible experience 78 00:02:53,510 --> 00:02:50,459 for the landing of the Mars Science 79 00:02:54,830 --> 00:02:53,520 Laboratory Curiosity rover on Mars its 80 00:02:56,690 --> 00:02:54,840 experiences like these that really 81 00:02:58,490 --> 00:02:56,700 helped share NASA with new audiences in 82 00:02:59,810 --> 00:02:58,500 new ways and it gets shared in very 83 00:03:01,310 --> 00:02:59,820 non-traditional ways that show off the 84 00:03:03,380 --> 00:03:01,320 science and engineering work that we do 85 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:03,390 here at NASA we strive every day to 86 00:03:06,140 --> 00:03:04,770 promote the diversity of amazing work 87 00:03:08,150 --> 00:03:06,150 done here and to share our missions 88 00:03:10,580 --> 00:03:08,160 programs and the talented employees in 89 00:03:12,140 --> 00:03:10,590 ways that connect with everybody the 90 00:03:14,180 --> 00:03:12,150 NASA socials are just one part of this 91 00:03:16,970 --> 00:03:14,190 strategy and that strategy is always 92 00:03:18,590 --> 00:03:16,980 evolving we're always looking for new 93 00:03:20,780 --> 00:03:18,600 opportunities connect with new audiences 94 00:03:22,550 --> 00:03:20,790 and share information in new ways we're 95 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:22,560 always exploring where the public is and 96 00:03:26,449 --> 00:03:23,970 figuring out where social media is 97 00:03:28,130 --> 00:03:26,459 headed next we are the most on the most 98 00:03:29,810 --> 00:03:28,140 popular platforms now and when new ones 99 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:29,820 emerge we'll go there too 100 00:03:33,860 --> 00:03:31,530 so thank you for joining us for this 101 00:03:35,750 --> 00:03:33,870 event today and this experience no 102 00:03:38,210 --> 00:03:35,760 matter if it's offline here in person or 103 00:03:39,259 --> 00:03:38,220 watching online today at home we're glad 104 00:03:41,870 --> 00:03:39,269 you could join us to hear more about 105 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:41,880 this incredible mission and without much 106 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:43,530 further ado here to talk with us about 107 00:03:47,180 --> 00:03:45,690 Helio physics the study of the Sun and 108 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:47,190 how it interacts with the solar system 109 00:03:53,090 --> 00:03:51,360 is dr. Barbara Giles the director of the 110 00:03:54,710 --> 00:03:53,100 Helio physics division of the science 111 00:03:58,150 --> 00:03:54,720 Mission Directorate at NASA headquarters 112 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,309 [Applause] 113 00:04:08,740 --> 00:04:05,800 so I'm very very happy to be here today 114 00:04:11,229 --> 00:04:08,750 to tell you about the radiation belt 115 00:04:13,509 --> 00:04:11,239 storm probes and and my particular job 116 00:04:16,509 --> 00:04:13,519 is is to tell you how it fits in the 117 00:04:20,469 --> 00:04:16,519 broader context of what NASA is trying 118 00:04:23,530 --> 00:04:20,479 to do in the area of Helio physics Helio 119 00:04:26,530 --> 00:04:23,540 physics is about solar in space physics 120 00:04:29,310 --> 00:04:26,540 it's about how the Sun affects our 121 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:29,320 Earth's near space environment and 122 00:04:34,930 --> 00:04:32,090 before we talk more about that I just 123 00:04:37,510 --> 00:04:34,940 want to want to tell you a little bit 124 00:04:39,250 --> 00:04:37,520 about myself and my connection with this 125 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:39,260 mission 126 00:04:46,690 --> 00:04:43,210 I started at NASA thirty years ago as a 127 00:04:48,490 --> 00:04:46,700 freshman at the University and when I 128 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:48,500 went to Goddard Space Flight Center 129 00:04:55,750 --> 00:04:52,370 about 15 years later I had the privilege 130 00:04:59,080 --> 00:04:55,760 of with dr. Bob Hoffman starting the 131 00:05:01,510 --> 00:04:59,090 first studies for this mission later 132 00:05:04,420 --> 00:05:01,520 when I went to NASA headquarters I also 133 00:05:07,180 --> 00:05:04,430 had the honor of of procuring the 134 00:05:09,940 --> 00:05:07,190 payload the instruments that would be 135 00:05:13,180 --> 00:05:09,950 onboard and now that I've been named 136 00:05:17,050 --> 00:05:13,190 director I have I have this honor of 137 00:05:19,390 --> 00:05:17,060 being with you today one thing I can 138 00:05:22,450 --> 00:05:19,400 share with you is that every one of 139 00:05:25,690 --> 00:05:22,460 those instrument teams have done 140 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:25,700 absolutely the best job that anyone 141 00:05:32,140 --> 00:05:28,250 could have expected of them the 142 00:05:36,129 --> 00:05:32,150 instruments on board are the highest 143 00:05:39,029 --> 00:05:36,139 quality the absolute best instruments 144 00:05:42,670 --> 00:05:39,039 that have ever been flown in this region 145 00:05:45,909 --> 00:05:42,680 I can also take a few minutes to brag on 146 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:45,919 the Applied Physics lab and the job that 147 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:47,810 they have done building the spacecraft 148 00:05:54,339 --> 00:05:50,930 and getting the spacecraft ready for 149 00:05:58,620 --> 00:05:54,349 launch there were several times over the 150 00:06:02,500 --> 00:05:58,630 past few years where APL has has made 151 00:06:06,650 --> 00:06:02,510 decisions that in hindsight I can now 152 00:06:11,510 --> 00:06:06,660 say absolutely made this mission six 153 00:06:14,390 --> 00:06:11,520 it is being launched on time within its 154 00:06:16,850 --> 00:06:14,400 cost commitments because of some of 155 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:16,860 those decisions they made that this is 156 00:06:23,990 --> 00:06:21,810 in terms of taxpayer investment one of 157 00:06:26,750 --> 00:06:24,000 the best investments I believe that we 158 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:26,760 have made in the heliophysics area and 159 00:06:36,530 --> 00:06:30,330 it will pay dividends for for many years 160 00:06:38,990 --> 00:06:36,540 to come so let's see the next thing what 161 00:06:41,350 --> 00:06:39,000 oh I know this is something that we 162 00:06:44,060 --> 00:06:41,360 really want to talk about this is 163 00:06:47,420 --> 00:06:44,070 absolutely the most exciting time for 164 00:06:51,260 --> 00:06:47,430 science at NASA I believe as you know 165 00:06:56,270 --> 00:06:51,270 earlier this month we landed the rover 166 00:06:58,760 --> 00:06:56,280 on Mars and certainly those the 167 00:07:01,460 --> 00:06:58,770 excitement of discoveries on other 168 00:07:05,270 --> 00:07:01,470 planets are something that just really 169 00:07:08,300 --> 00:07:05,280 speaks to our soul NASA is also all 170 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:08,310 about understanding our own planet and 171 00:07:13,100 --> 00:07:11,250 the radiation belt storm probes is a 172 00:07:15,950 --> 00:07:13,110 mission that will do just that 173 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:15,960 in particular the questions we're trying 174 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:20,490 to answer are why does the Sun vary how 175 00:07:27,020 --> 00:07:23,610 does the earth respond and what are the 176 00:07:28,490 --> 00:07:27,030 implications for life in society and so 177 00:07:31,340 --> 00:07:28,500 that's what you're going to hear about 178 00:07:34,970 --> 00:07:31,350 today is how the radiation belt storm 179 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:34,980 probes fits into those big questions 180 00:07:40,850 --> 00:07:38,370 that we're trying to answer when we're 181 00:07:44,150 --> 00:07:40,860 thinking about why does the Sun vary 182 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:44,160 about two years ago we launched the 183 00:07:50,570 --> 00:07:47,490 first mission in our program that's 184 00:07:54,260 --> 00:07:50,580 called living with a star because we do 185 00:07:56,900 --> 00:07:54,270 live in the atmosphere of a star our Sun 186 00:08:00,670 --> 00:07:56,910 it's the most important star in my 187 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:00,680 opinion the Solar Dynamics Observatory 188 00:08:06,590 --> 00:08:03,810 those that that mission gives you all of 189 00:08:08,660 --> 00:08:06,600 those exciting images of the Sun that 190 00:08:12,050 --> 00:08:08,670 you've been seeing in the news and in 191 00:08:13,860 --> 00:08:12,060 print the radiation belt storm probes is 192 00:08:16,409 --> 00:08:13,870 going to join that mission 193 00:08:19,110 --> 00:08:16,419 and will truly be able to make that 194 00:08:21,780 --> 00:08:19,120 connection between what is happening on 195 00:08:25,740 --> 00:08:21,790 the Sun and what is happening in Earth's 196 00:08:28,110 --> 00:08:25,750 near space environment so that's what I 197 00:08:31,170 --> 00:08:28,120 want you to know about the radiation 198 00:08:34,190 --> 00:08:31,180 belt storm probes and I would love to 199 00:08:38,670 --> 00:08:34,200 answer more questions if you have them 200 00:08:41,430 --> 00:08:38,680 about the heliophysics program about the 201 00:08:44,550 --> 00:08:41,440 living with a star program about Solar 202 00:08:49,350 --> 00:08:44,560 Dynamics Observatory or any of the other 203 00:08:52,230 --> 00:08:49,360 missions that we manage for you for your 204 00:08:58,560 --> 00:08:52,240 for your program in solar and space 205 00:09:08,010 --> 00:09:05,580 don't be shy yes my first question among 206 00:09:11,490 --> 00:09:08,020 many would be how does what you're doing 207 00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:11,500 now compared with the historical of an 208 00:09:17,190 --> 00:09:13,690 Allen explorations of the early space 209 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:17,200 program this is very exciting mission 210 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:21,010 we've actually had a few missions that 211 00:09:28,050 --> 00:09:23,410 have advanced the science of their 212 00:09:30,090 --> 00:09:28,060 radiation belts over time and the big 213 00:09:33,210 --> 00:09:30,100 difference here is that we're actually 214 00:09:36,510 --> 00:09:33,220 going to have instrumentation that 215 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:36,520 covers the full range of measurements 216 00:09:41,850 --> 00:09:39,370 that we need to unravel the mysteries 217 00:09:44,460 --> 00:09:41,860 and I think that Dave Sypek you're going 218 00:09:48,330 --> 00:09:44,470 to cover about that instrument range 219 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:48,340 about the full range of fields particles 220 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:52,570 waves we've got the two spacecraft that 221 00:10:00,810 --> 00:09:56,170 allow us to separate processes that act 222 00:10:03,090 --> 00:10:00,820 on timescales or spatial scales that's 223 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:03,100 going to be the big difference in this 224 00:10:10,230 --> 00:10:06,210 case it's it's an incredibly harsh 225 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:10,240 environment it has taken us this long to 226 00:10:16,100 --> 00:10:13,330 build this mission because of that harsh 227 00:10:18,540 --> 00:10:16,110 environment we had two advanced 228 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:18,550 technologies to the point where we could 229 00:10:25,530 --> 00:10:22,330 safely fly these missions through the 230 00:10:29,700 --> 00:10:25,540 radiation belts sustain the measurements 231 00:10:32,430 --> 00:10:29,710 through big storms so I think that's one 232 00:10:34,860 --> 00:10:32,440 of the biggest differences from time 233 00:10:37,860 --> 00:10:34,870 we've learned a lot now we're going to 234 00:10:44,900 --> 00:10:37,870 be able I hope to nail down the the 235 00:10:50,750 --> 00:10:48,080 the opportunity 236 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:50,760 because you are going into such a 237 00:10:56,810 --> 00:10:55,170 hazardous environment how predictable is 238 00:11:01,040 --> 00:10:56,820 that the degradation of the systems 239 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:01,050 onboard these areas they're really a way 240 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:03,930 of knowing that well we can we can 241 00:11:10,850 --> 00:11:08,010 always wonder whether we have understood 242 00:11:13,070 --> 00:11:10,860 everything that's coming before us one 243 00:11:15,530 --> 00:11:13,080 thing that we do know is that we have 244 00:11:18,350 --> 00:11:15,540 flown missions through these regions for 245 00:11:22,130 --> 00:11:18,360 many years we have a lot of experience 246 00:11:25,010 --> 00:11:22,140 on what causes upsets to systems we have 247 00:11:28,010 --> 00:11:25,020 a lot of experience about how this 248 00:11:31,010 --> 00:11:28,020 environment might degrade systems and we 249 00:11:33,980 --> 00:11:31,020 have designed against those so I think 250 00:11:36,950 --> 00:11:33,990 we have a lot of good information a lot 251 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:36,960 of good experience and I have every 252 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:39,210 confidence that this missions going to 253 00:11:45,620 --> 00:11:41,970 going to survive that environment just 254 00:11:47,450 --> 00:11:45,630 fine we have a good track record 255 00:11:51,050 --> 00:11:47,460 actually I'll just brag on our track 256 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:51,060 record for a minute is that in 257 00:11:57,140 --> 00:11:53,850 heliophysics many of the missions that 258 00:12:00,680 --> 00:11:57,150 we have flown they have designed 259 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:00,690 lifetimes they're two years or four 260 00:12:07,670 --> 00:12:04,610 years whatever the design lifetime is 261 00:12:11,780 --> 00:12:07,680 these missions have typically exceeded 262 00:12:14,990 --> 00:12:11,790 those lifetimes by several by several 263 00:12:21,570 --> 00:12:15,000 times and I think this one will as well 264 00:12:27,070 --> 00:12:24,430 are there plans to put in some type of 265 00:12:28,930 --> 00:12:27,080 an early warning system for solar storms 266 00:12:34,180 --> 00:12:28,940 and their effect on the planet our 267 00:12:37,540 --> 00:12:34,190 electrical grid actually we we have as 268 00:12:40,930 --> 00:12:37,550 part of the heliophysics program we are 269 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:40,940 currently managing 17 missions in orbit 270 00:12:48,970 --> 00:12:44,330 now several of them do have real-time 271 00:12:53,350 --> 00:12:48,980 data capability it brings us data now on 272 00:12:55,990 --> 00:12:53,360 what is happening on the Sun a beacon so 273 00:12:59,230 --> 00:12:56,000 that after a day or two we see more 274 00:13:02,620 --> 00:12:59,240 information and then once the events get 275 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:02,630 closer to the earth more information all 276 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:06,770 of that data is fed to the Space Weather 277 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:10,610 Prediction Center at that is that NOAA 278 00:13:17,530 --> 00:13:13,730 manages in Boulder Colorado and they do 279 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:17,540 issue warnings on a regular basis if you 280 00:13:23,170 --> 00:13:19,850 haven't signed up for their warnings 281 00:13:25,030 --> 00:13:23,180 there they're really fascinating to come 282 00:13:27,190 --> 00:13:25,040 through your email I recommend you just 283 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:27,200 sign up for all of the warnings it's 284 00:13:32,770 --> 00:13:30,890 just fun to see them come through and 285 00:13:36,850 --> 00:13:32,780 and think about what's happening in the 286 00:13:38,860 --> 00:13:36,860 space environment real time maybe that's 287 00:13:42,700 --> 00:13:38,870 only me that I enjoy Sam 288 00:13:45,220 --> 00:13:42,710 but okay I love it I wash it this 289 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:45,230 question kind of builds on the last I 290 00:13:49,630 --> 00:13:46,730 was wondering if you could give some 291 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:49,640 more everyday real-world examples of 292 00:13:56,110 --> 00:13:54,290 what our PSP is going to apply to folks 293 00:13:58,240 --> 00:13:56,120 in their lives as far as maybe radio 294 00:14:00,100 --> 00:13:58,250 frequencies and and measuring things 295 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:00,110 that would potentially interfere with 296 00:14:05,980 --> 00:14:02,570 the mobile devices that were becoming 297 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:05,990 you know so dependent upon we'll be glad 298 00:14:09,100 --> 00:14:07,490 to do that now Dave are you gonna go 299 00:14:11,890 --> 00:14:09,110 into some of that in a little more 300 00:14:14,710 --> 00:14:11,900 detail so I I don't want to steal Dave's 301 00:14:17,620 --> 00:14:14,720 thunder but one of the things that I 302 00:14:21,100 --> 00:14:17,630 think is really important that doesn't 303 00:14:24,700 --> 00:14:21,110 come you know in in in all of our our 304 00:14:26,769 --> 00:14:24,710 literature about rbsp but one of the 305 00:14:30,220 --> 00:14:26,779 things is that the instrumentation is 306 00:14:33,100 --> 00:14:30,230 really going to be able to measure many 307 00:14:35,010 --> 00:14:33,110 of the current systems that happen in 308 00:14:37,870 --> 00:14:35,020 our near-earth space environment 309 00:14:40,870 --> 00:14:37,880 understanding those current systems and 310 00:14:44,050 --> 00:14:40,880 then later using other spacecraft as 311 00:14:46,420 --> 00:14:44,060 well understanding how that connects to 312 00:14:48,490 --> 00:14:46,430 currents on the ground the geomagnetic 313 00:14:50,860 --> 00:14:48,500 induced currents that you hear about 314 00:14:52,620 --> 00:14:50,870 that affect the power grid we're going 315 00:14:55,750 --> 00:14:52,630 to be able to make those connections 316 00:14:59,110 --> 00:14:55,760 over time and hopefully we will have 317 00:15:02,260 --> 00:14:59,120 some models available in in the 318 00:15:05,290 --> 00:15:02,270 not-too-distant future we're working on 319 00:15:08,350 --> 00:15:05,300 that to really predict how that might 320 00:15:12,460 --> 00:15:08,360 affect the power grid so that's that's 321 00:15:15,579 --> 00:15:12,470 my I guess that's one of my dreams to 322 00:15:17,860 --> 00:15:15,589 come come to fruition over the next two 323 00:15:19,420 --> 00:15:17,870 years now Dave you've prep I've seen 324 00:15:22,329 --> 00:15:19,430 your slides you've got other good 325 00:15:27,100 --> 00:15:22,339 examples as well so I won't steal those 326 00:15:31,510 --> 00:15:27,110 from you okay okay we got one more time 327 00:15:33,940 --> 00:15:31,520 anybody anyway 328 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:33,950 as the information comes back from the 329 00:15:37,690 --> 00:15:36,050 storm probes will there be access to the 330 00:15:40,180 --> 00:15:37,700 data available online for the general 331 00:15:41,710 --> 00:15:40,190 public to catch up on any of what 332 00:15:43,570 --> 00:15:41,720 they're you know what it's picking up oh 333 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:43,580 absolutely 334 00:15:51,010 --> 00:15:46,730 one thing that NASA has as a principle 335 00:15:54,310 --> 00:15:51,020 is is an open data policy and so as soon 336 00:15:56,580 --> 00:15:54,320 as the data has has gone through its 337 00:15:59,890 --> 00:15:56,590 initial processing it will be available 338 00:16:03,120 --> 00:15:59,900 in a very short period of time 339 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:03,130 it's openly accessible there will be 340 00:16:10,750 --> 00:16:07,490 plots and graphs and the raw data that 341 00:16:13,900 --> 00:16:10,760 anyone would be able to to pick up and 342 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:13,910 in use in whatever way they they'd like 343 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:16,250 to so we're gonna and we're going to try 344 00:16:21,700 --> 00:16:19,490 to to also put some interpretations out 345 00:16:24,970 --> 00:16:21,710 there as well as time goes on when 346 00:16:28,060 --> 00:16:24,980 there's a storm they'll also be some 347 00:16:31,540 --> 00:16:28,070 releases that help explain the data for 348 00:16:35,550 --> 00:16:31,550 the larger events so we hope that that 349 00:16:39,940 --> 00:16:35,560 you'll you'll follow us in the future 350 00:16:49,390 --> 00:16:39,950 okay thank you very much Barbara thank 351 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:49,400 you so next up we have dr. David Tsai 352 00:16:53,530 --> 00:16:52,490 back he's the rbsp mission scientist 353 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:53,540 from the NASA Goddard Space Flight 354 00:17:01,170 --> 00:16:55,250 Center so joining us here today 355 00:17:05,620 --> 00:17:03,910 Thank You delighted to be here delighted 356 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:05,630 to be with your viewers on NASA 357 00:17:10,270 --> 00:17:08,810 television I'm David cyber Kai at NASA's 358 00:17:12,670 --> 00:17:10,280 Goddard Space Flight Center 359 00:17:15,070 --> 00:17:12,680 I'm the mission scientist for the rbsp 360 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:15,080 mission that means I work closely with 361 00:17:20,890 --> 00:17:17,570 NASA headquarters and the scientists and 362 00:17:23,020 --> 00:17:20,900 engineers at JH APL to get the best 363 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:23,030 possible science out of this mission and 364 00:17:27,730 --> 00:17:25,490 to communicate it to you the public 365 00:17:30,970 --> 00:17:27,740 that's my job so I'm very happy to be 366 00:17:32,710 --> 00:17:30,980 with you here today okay let's see 367 00:17:37,330 --> 00:17:32,720 should have a slide to go with my 368 00:17:38,980 --> 00:17:37,340 presentation that's good okay we've done 369 00:17:42,340 --> 00:17:38,990 that one check move on 370 00:17:44,650 --> 00:17:42,350 okay so where do we fit in the big 371 00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:44,660 picture well we're talking about space 372 00:17:49,540 --> 00:17:46,640 weather we're talking about things that 373 00:17:53,230 --> 00:17:49,550 happen at the Sun and connect to us here 374 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:53,240 at Earth the driver for everything we do 375 00:17:58,030 --> 00:17:55,730 and we study is the Sun the turbulent 376 00:18:00,280 --> 00:17:58,040 processes that occur on the Sun flares 377 00:18:02,860 --> 00:18:00,290 explosions on the Sun blasts of plasma 378 00:18:04,780 --> 00:18:02,870 that come out from the Sun carrying the 379 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:04,790 magnetic field of the Sun outward 380 00:18:10,150 --> 00:18:07,970 towards the earth through interplanetary 381 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:10,160 space past the other planets to earth 382 00:18:14,620 --> 00:18:12,890 when those explosions and those blasts 383 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:14,630 of plasma reach earth 384 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:16,610 that's when interesting things start to 385 00:18:21,340 --> 00:18:19,490 happen the Earth's magnetic field is our 386 00:18:24,700 --> 00:18:21,350 shield against them but it's an 387 00:18:27,070 --> 00:18:24,710 imperfect shield variations in the solar 388 00:18:29,170 --> 00:18:27,080 wind the Sun that are coming out shake 389 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:29,180 and make the magnetospheric magnetic 390 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:31,610 field our shield shudder and shake 391 00:18:36,580 --> 00:18:34,490 they interject energy particles plasma 392 00:18:38,980 --> 00:18:36,590 into the Earth's magnetic field they're 393 00:18:41,050 --> 00:18:38,990 the driver of geomagnetic storms which 394 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:41,060 cause disturbances in the area around 395 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:43,130 Earth they're the driver of a rural 396 00:18:49,660 --> 00:18:45,170 phenomenon the Aurora that you can see 397 00:18:52,630 --> 00:18:49,670 at high latitudes in the sky at night so 398 00:18:54,790 --> 00:18:52,640 where do we fit in the picture we with 399 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:54,800 rbsp are measuring that response at 400 00:18:58,840 --> 00:18:57,050 Earth the response to these geomagnetic 401 00:19:01,420 --> 00:18:58,850 storms that are driven by things 402 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:01,430 happening on the Sun we're a partner in 403 00:19:05,740 --> 00:19:03,650 a sequence of events we're a partner 404 00:19:07,930 --> 00:19:05,750 with the other spacecraft that dr. Giles 405 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:07,940 just mentioned we're looking forward to 406 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:09,890 working with them let's go on to the 407 00:19:13,749 --> 00:19:11,090 next slide 408 00:19:16,180 --> 00:19:13,759 we're interested in solving problems of 409 00:19:18,279 --> 00:19:16,190 practical importance that's the living 410 00:19:20,830 --> 00:19:18,289 with a star program it works on things 411 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:20,840 like that these are some examples of 412 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:23,210 space weather effects space weather 413 00:19:27,610 --> 00:19:25,610 things that can harm our technology or 414 00:19:29,860 --> 00:19:27,620 our astronauts in space 415 00:19:32,220 --> 00:19:29,870 perhaps they range over much broader 416 00:19:35,409 --> 00:19:32,230 range of topics than you had imagined 417 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:35,419 Airlines exposure to radiation in 418 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:37,850 airlines in passenger jets passing over 419 00:19:44,159 --> 00:19:40,850 the polar caps harm to spacecraft and 420 00:19:46,509 --> 00:19:44,169 satellites harm to astronauts 421 00:19:48,789 --> 00:19:46,519 difficulties with communication in the 422 00:19:51,279 --> 00:19:48,799 polar region difficulties talking to 423 00:19:53,409 --> 00:19:51,289 airplanes difficulty with your GPS these 424 00:19:54,580 --> 00:19:53,419 are all space weather effects we're 425 00:19:58,269 --> 00:19:54,590 gonna be looking at one particular 426 00:20:01,419 --> 00:19:58,279 aspect the harm that radiation in space 427 00:20:04,210 --> 00:20:01,429 in the Van Allen belts can cause two 428 00:20:06,519 --> 00:20:04,220 spacecraft circling the earth we want to 429 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:06,529 be able to predict what goes on to 430 00:20:11,499 --> 00:20:08,690 predict we have to first observe and 431 00:20:15,539 --> 00:20:11,509 understand compared with other cases 432 00:20:18,820 --> 00:20:15,549 other days other spacecraft let's go on 433 00:20:20,889 --> 00:20:18,830 NASA's living with a star program as dr. 434 00:20:23,259 --> 00:20:20,899 Giles pointed out it addresses 435 00:20:25,930 --> 00:20:23,269 fundamental questions very basic 436 00:20:28,029 --> 00:20:25,940 questions how and why does the Sun vary 437 00:20:29,889 --> 00:20:28,039 what causes explosions what about the 438 00:20:32,139 --> 00:20:29,899 solar cycle Dow do we know that this is 439 00:20:34,389 --> 00:20:32,149 gonna be a big solar cycle as you all 440 00:20:36,669 --> 00:20:34,399 know we're headed into the peak of the 441 00:20:38,590 --> 00:20:36,679 solar cycle right now it'd be good if we 442 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:38,600 could predict just how strong that solar 443 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:40,730 cycle will be how big its effects will 444 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:43,490 be how did the earth and other planetary 445 00:20:48,549 --> 00:20:46,129 systems respond we want to know because 446 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:48,559 we want to protect our spacecraft our 447 00:20:51,310 --> 00:20:50,450 assets and predict what's gonna happen 448 00:20:53,739 --> 00:20:51,320 on the ground 449 00:20:56,049 --> 00:20:53,749 for example power line transmissions at 450 00:20:58,419 --> 00:20:56,059 high latitudes as dr. Giles mentioned 451 00:21:00,639 --> 00:20:58,429 what are the impacts on human and 452 00:21:03,909 --> 00:21:00,649 robotic explorers these things can 453 00:21:05,499 --> 00:21:03,919 destroy spacecraft so what are we gonna 454 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:05,509 have to do we're gonna have to 455 00:21:09,909 --> 00:21:07,730 understand the basic physics there's no 456 00:21:11,919 --> 00:21:09,919 first principle no model for predicting 457 00:21:13,690 --> 00:21:11,929 what happens unless you understand the 458 00:21:16,090 --> 00:21:13,700 science that should go into the model 459 00:21:17,619 --> 00:21:16,100 just like weather forecasts you got to 460 00:21:19,269 --> 00:21:17,629 go out and observe you got to think 461 00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:19,279 about it you got to put things together 462 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:21,679 and then you develop these complicated 463 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:23,210 models for weather 464 00:21:28,180 --> 00:21:26,090 we have space weather we'd like to know 465 00:21:29,770 --> 00:21:28,190 how to mitigate or accommodate space 466 00:21:31,420 --> 00:21:29,780 weather and you can't call your 467 00:21:33,670 --> 00:21:31,430 satellites back in if there's trouble 468 00:21:35,770 --> 00:21:33,680 but perhaps you can power them down and 469 00:21:37,810 --> 00:21:35,780 protect them you can ask astronauts not 470 00:21:40,180 --> 00:21:37,820 to be out on spacewalks if something bad 471 00:21:42,340 --> 00:21:40,190 is going to happen when we'd like to 472 00:21:44,740 --> 00:21:42,350 understand how space weather affects 473 00:21:47,500 --> 00:21:44,750 instruments spacecraft electrical 474 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:47,510 circuits surfaces in space solar cells 475 00:21:52,030 --> 00:21:49,850 in space these can all be harmed by 476 00:21:53,860 --> 00:21:52,040 space weather if you know what's out 477 00:21:57,490 --> 00:21:53,870 there you know how to design them and 478 00:22:00,160 --> 00:21:57,500 build them in future let's go on the 479 00:22:01,750 --> 00:22:00,170 Earth's radiation belts are invisible to 480 00:22:03,820 --> 00:22:01,760 you and me this is an artist's 481 00:22:06,190 --> 00:22:03,830 conception it's a movie go ahead and 482 00:22:09,340 --> 00:22:06,200 start the movie they're out there 483 00:22:12,010 --> 00:22:09,350 pulsating in space they can grow they 484 00:22:14,590 --> 00:22:12,020 can wax they can wane stronger one day 485 00:22:16,870 --> 00:22:14,600 weaker the other varying on timescales 486 00:22:20,170 --> 00:22:16,880 ranging from minutes to hours through 487 00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:20,180 days to months black even up to years 488 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:22,310 all different time scales all different 489 00:22:26,740 --> 00:22:24,650 kinds of variations some of them are 490 00:22:29,140 --> 00:22:26,750 global the whole thing expanding in and 491 00:22:31,810 --> 00:22:29,150 out some of them are very local ripples 492 00:22:33,790 --> 00:22:31,820 on a doughnut shaped object circling the 493 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:33,800 earth bouncing back and forth causing 494 00:22:39,670 --> 00:22:37,010 things to happen they're connected to 495 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:39,680 the earth as dr. Giles said the currents 496 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:41,330 and variations that happen in the 497 00:22:46,060 --> 00:22:44,090 radiation belts can have effects down on 498 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:46,070 the surface of the earth primarily at 499 00:22:50,530 --> 00:22:48,290 high latitudes that's where field lines 500 00:22:51,490 --> 00:22:50,540 lead on a bar magnet to the northern and 501 00:22:53,410 --> 00:22:51,500 southern poles 502 00:22:55,300 --> 00:22:53,420 that's where currents would flow that's 503 00:22:58,330 --> 00:22:55,310 where trouble could happen to power line 504 00:23:02,560 --> 00:22:58,340 transmissions or communications let's go 505 00:23:04,420 --> 00:23:02,570 on so what about rbsp well this is what 506 00:23:06,700 --> 00:23:04,430 NASA hopes to get out of the mission and 507 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:06,710 this is what we're gonna see we're gonna 508 00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:08,330 try to understand the hazardous 509 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:10,880 environment that we face out there we'd 510 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:13,250 like to know what produces the radiation 511 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:15,650 in the Van Allen radiation belts what 512 00:23:20,290 --> 00:23:18,410 processes remove the particles from the 513 00:23:22,930 --> 00:23:20,300 Van Allen radiation belts because they 514 00:23:25,780 --> 00:23:22,940 grow in wax and wane what processes 515 00:23:28,570 --> 00:23:25,790 modify the radiation belts that's what 516 00:23:29,980 --> 00:23:28,580 this mission is intended to address I've 517 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:29,990 got a statement there about the 518 00:23:33,860 --> 00:23:32,090 instruments on the spacecraft but I 519 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:33,870 believe Nikki you'll talk more 520 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:36,330 the instruments is that right Dave 521 00:23:41,299 --> 00:23:39,450 sounds great okay so as Barbara said 522 00:23:42,950 --> 00:23:41,309 we've got the complete set of 523 00:23:45,380 --> 00:23:42,960 instruments we need from the lowest 524 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:45,390 possible particle energies to the 525 00:23:50,810 --> 00:23:48,570 highest from tens of evey to more than a 526 00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:50,820 Giga electron volt that's from very cold 527 00:23:54,140 --> 00:23:52,320 very energetic 528 00:23:58,010 --> 00:23:54,150 we've got composition we know about 529 00:23:59,690 --> 00:23:58,020 protons electrons helium oxygen we're 530 00:24:02,360 --> 00:23:59,700 gonna measure all the waves out there 531 00:24:05,090 --> 00:24:02,370 the waves at high frequency the waves at 532 00:24:07,820 --> 00:24:05,100 low frequency the DC electric field the 533 00:24:10,010 --> 00:24:07,830 DC magnetic field the AC electric and 534 00:24:12,410 --> 00:24:10,020 magnetic field comprehensive 535 00:24:14,510 --> 00:24:12,420 instrumentation a pair of spacecraft to 536 00:24:16,669 --> 00:24:14,520 determine cause and effect a pair of 537 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:16,679 spacecraft to determine the extent of 538 00:24:21,290 --> 00:24:19,410 various phenomena out there a pair of 539 00:24:25,310 --> 00:24:21,300 spacecraft to tell us what's going on 540 00:24:26,780 --> 00:24:25,320 next slide I think at that point I stop 541 00:24:31,100 --> 00:24:26,790 and take your questions 542 00:24:34,210 --> 00:24:31,110 and pass on the baton I could be Nicki 543 00:24:38,700 --> 00:24:34,220 farts but but that would be peculiar 544 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:41,310 so how much heliophysics luck was 545 00:24:44,730 --> 00:24:42,850 involved in sending the apollo 546 00:24:49,530 --> 00:24:44,740 spacecraft through the Van Allen belts 547 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:49,540 back in the 60s okay so actually the the 548 00:24:53,610 --> 00:24:52,330 Van Allen radiation belts the astronauts 549 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:53,620 that were going out passed through them 550 00:24:57,570 --> 00:24:55,570 rather quickly and they didn't do space 551 00:24:59,400 --> 00:24:57,580 maneuvers while they were in the Van 552 00:25:00,990 --> 00:24:59,410 Allen radiation belts and as long as you 553 00:25:04,860 --> 00:25:01,000 would stay inside the spacecraft you 554 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:04,870 would be okay so in in that sense there 555 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:07,570 wasn't any and the effects of the Van 556 00:25:11,130 --> 00:25:09,130 Allen radiation belts were known about 557 00:25:13,650 --> 00:25:11,140 then so it was known not to do anything 558 00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:13,660 then once you're in interplanetary space 559 00:25:18,420 --> 00:25:15,910 you might have problems with energetic 560 00:25:20,370 --> 00:25:18,430 particles coming from the Sun and there 561 00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:20,380 you would certainly not want them to be 562 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:22,510 outside during a big solar flare an 563 00:25:26,490 --> 00:25:24,490 energetic particle event the other 564 00:25:28,290 --> 00:25:26,500 astronauts we have to worry about are 565 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:28,300 the ones in the space station in the 566 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:31,210 Earth's magnetosphere right now at the 567 00:25:34,860 --> 00:25:33,010 highest latitudes it gets up to the 568 00:25:36,990 --> 00:25:34,870 footprint of these field lines gets up 569 00:25:39,390 --> 00:25:37,000 the open lines open to the Sun and so 570 00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:39,400 there there is a need to take care not 571 00:25:48,370 --> 00:25:42,400 to do extra vehicular activity during 572 00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:56,320 somebody else 573 00:26:02,789 --> 00:25:59,169 in light of the Hicks Boston publicity 574 00:26:04,419 --> 00:26:02,799 at the supercollider are you prepared to 575 00:26:07,180 --> 00:26:04,429 theoretically detect something 576 00:26:07,930 --> 00:26:07,190 extraordinary the genetics that expected 577 00:26:10,959 --> 00:26:07,940 the fine 578 00:26:13,239 --> 00:26:10,969 beep be hopeful not I'm get your noble 579 00:26:15,070 --> 00:26:13,249 to tell the honest truth right here the 580 00:26:16,989 --> 00:26:15,080 most exciting things that come out of 581 00:26:19,479 --> 00:26:16,999 these missions are the ones you didn't 582 00:26:22,779 --> 00:26:19,489 expect to see and so you have to keep 583 00:26:24,519 --> 00:26:22,789 your eyes open all my career yes there's 584 00:26:26,619 --> 00:26:24,529 a certain set of things we're guaranteed 585 00:26:28,479 --> 00:26:26,629 to do we're going to the right place at 586 00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:28,489 the right time the peak of the solar 587 00:26:33,310 --> 00:26:30,799 cycle the heart of the radiation belts 588 00:26:36,069 --> 00:26:33,320 but it's the things you don't expect to 589 00:26:38,739 --> 00:26:36,079 see that are most interesting but if we 590 00:26:40,329 --> 00:26:38,749 get the biggest solar flare ever then 591 00:26:42,579 --> 00:26:40,339 we're gonna learn something really new 592 00:26:44,319 --> 00:26:42,589 and interesting or perhaps there's some 593 00:26:46,449 --> 00:26:44,329 phenomena out there that we just haven't 594 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:46,459 considered and yeah that's what we keep 595 00:26:53,499 --> 00:26:49,129 our eyes open for and that's the delight 596 00:26:56,469 --> 00:26:53,509 of the mission is there any evidence 597 00:27:00,039 --> 00:26:56,479 that activity on the surface of the 598 00:27:02,139 --> 00:27:00,049 earth affects the belt in any way yes 599 00:27:05,019 --> 00:27:02,149 there is as a matter of fact there is 600 00:27:06,729 --> 00:27:05,029 evidence that phenomena on the surface 601 00:27:09,940 --> 00:27:06,739 of the earth can affect the belts an 602 00:27:13,029 --> 00:27:09,950 example of that is lightning strikes 603 00:27:15,310 --> 00:27:13,039 lightning strikes in one hemisphere 604 00:27:17,949 --> 00:27:15,320 launched waves that travel along 605 00:27:20,829 --> 00:27:17,959 magnetic field lines up to the other 606 00:27:23,229 --> 00:27:20,839 Pole the other Hemisphere and the sort 607 00:27:25,899 --> 00:27:23,239 of waves that they launch are just the 608 00:27:28,329 --> 00:27:25,909 right kind to interact with electrons in 609 00:27:31,209 --> 00:27:28,339 the radiation belts either energizing 610 00:27:33,219 --> 00:27:31,219 them or scattering them there are plenty 611 00:27:35,379 --> 00:27:33,229 of people who believe that processes in 612 00:27:38,589 --> 00:27:35,389 the Earth's ionosphere sudden 613 00:27:41,169 --> 00:27:38,599 disturbances can launch waves up into 614 00:27:43,329 --> 00:27:41,179 the atmosphere up into the magnetosphere 615 00:27:45,009 --> 00:27:43,339 and affect the particles yes we're 616 00:27:47,049 --> 00:27:45,019 looking for that and we want to work 617 00:27:54,060 --> 00:27:47,059 closely with ground-based people to 618 00:27:57,900 --> 00:27:56,040 I know it was stated yesterday that 619 00:28:00,090 --> 00:27:57,910 these two different spacecrafts were 620 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:00,100 basically built for the cost of one what 621 00:28:02,940 --> 00:28:01,570 is some of the advantages of having the 622 00:28:05,010 --> 00:28:02,950 two different spacecrafts in the two 623 00:28:07,020 --> 00:28:05,020 orbits as opposed to just one not a lot 624 00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:07,030 this the if you were gonna ask about the 625 00:28:11,910 --> 00:28:09,760 spacecraft design I defer to Dave but if 626 00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:11,920 you're gonna ask about why have to 627 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:13,840 there's some simple reasons we've 628 00:28:17,910 --> 00:28:15,490 thought about at the start of the 629 00:28:19,470 --> 00:28:17,920 mission the answer is two spacecraft 630 00:28:22,260 --> 00:28:19,480 tell you if something is happening first 631 00:28:24,150 --> 00:28:22,270 here and then propagates their two 632 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:24,160 spacecraft tells you if it's widespread 633 00:28:29,070 --> 00:28:26,890 or very local and the spacing is going 634 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:29,080 to vary as nikki is going to tell you in 635 00:28:32,910 --> 00:28:31,450 in a few minutes two spacecrafts gives 636 00:28:35,130 --> 00:28:32,920 you a wealth of information that 637 00:28:37,260 --> 00:28:35,140 separates spatial and temporal effects 638 00:28:39,450 --> 00:28:37,270 lets you know more we've had one 639 00:28:41,790 --> 00:28:39,460 spacecraft missions before we've never 640 00:28:43,980 --> 00:28:41,800 had fully equipped two spacecraft 641 00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:43,990 mission to tell us more details on 642 00:28:55,810 --> 00:28:53,440 is there any working theory as to why 643 00:28:57,249 --> 00:28:55,820 there is a clear area between the inner 644 00:28:58,989 --> 00:28:57,259 belt and the outer belt is there some 645 00:29:01,720 --> 00:28:58,999 mechanism that sweeps out there yes 646 00:29:04,090 --> 00:29:01,730 there's yes there are plasma waves in 647 00:29:05,919 --> 00:29:04,100 that region of space that can remove the 648 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:05,929 particles faster than they can be put 649 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:07,970 into that region see but sometimes that 650 00:29:13,299 --> 00:29:10,850 space is full of particles and so during 651 00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:13,309 big storms they get in go across it and 652 00:29:16,570 --> 00:29:15,110 get into the inner belt and can hang 653 00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:16,580 around there for a long period of time 654 00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:19,279 and as normal there are more theories 655 00:29:30,779 --> 00:29:21,529 than scientists so we'll be checking out 656 00:29:35,389 --> 00:29:33,060 all right well then hearing none we will 657 00:29:45,810 --> 00:29:35,399 go ahead and move on to our next speaker 658 00:29:47,849 --> 00:29:45,820 we have next up we have Nikki Fox she is 659 00:29:49,859 --> 00:29:47,859 joining us from the rbsp she's the 660 00:29:52,529 --> 00:29:49,869 deputy project scientist 661 00:29:54,029 --> 00:29:52,539 so welcome Nikki Fox she's at the 662 00:29:59,159 --> 00:29:54,039 Applied Physics Laboratory at Johns 663 00:30:01,289 --> 00:29:59,169 Hopkins so hi it is my great pleasure to 664 00:30:03,749 --> 00:30:01,299 be here representing the the science 665 00:30:05,969 --> 00:30:03,759 team today I've been having an amazing 666 00:30:07,709 --> 00:30:05,979 couple of days I've been I think my 667 00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:07,719 fourth trip out to see the rocket today 668 00:30:11,099 --> 00:30:10,089 which that was awesome and you've all 669 00:30:13,499 --> 00:30:11,109 seen it haven't you 670 00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:13,509 isn't it nice does isn't the logo 671 00:30:19,829 --> 00:30:16,809 fabulous yeah do you know that logo is 672 00:30:21,930 --> 00:30:19,839 hand-painted ok because what so so if 673 00:30:23,189 --> 00:30:21,940 you have a smooth fairing then they can 674 00:30:25,139 --> 00:30:23,199 put like a peel on you know you just 675 00:30:26,639 --> 00:30:25,149 produce like a sticker and then you peel 676 00:30:28,289 --> 00:30:26,649 it off and put it on a smooth parry if 677 00:30:30,239 --> 00:30:28,299 you looked closely at ours its ridged 678 00:30:33,239 --> 00:30:30,249 because it's a four meter fairing so it 679 00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:33,249 had to be hand painted so Abby there's 680 00:30:38,669 --> 00:30:35,440 an artist who specializes in this we got 681 00:30:39,989 --> 00:30:38,679 a projector projected the logo onto the 682 00:30:42,089 --> 00:30:39,999 spacecraft and it's actually if you 683 00:30:43,739 --> 00:30:42,099 cannot the spacecraft sorry they'd be 684 00:30:46,259 --> 00:30:43,749 really mad if he painted the spacecraft 685 00:30:47,339 --> 00:30:46,269 own that's where the fairing and he got 686 00:30:50,099 --> 00:30:47,349 it really close and he actually painted 687 00:30:52,469 --> 00:30:50,109 it in 3d so it go the whole thing wraps 688 00:30:54,719 --> 00:30:52,479 around the vanes it is amazing if you 689 00:30:57,659 --> 00:30:54,729 can it's just yeah I'm sorry I'm very up 690 00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:57,669 thank you I'm very excited if you can't 691 00:31:02,249 --> 00:31:00,159 tell I am very excited okay I've been 692 00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:02,259 saying for about two months now it's 693 00:31:06,059 --> 00:31:03,849 impossible for me to be any more excited 694 00:31:08,549 --> 00:31:06,069 than I am today and in fact I'm still 695 00:31:11,369 --> 00:31:08,559 proving that wrong and Liz I did wear my 696 00:31:12,959 --> 00:31:11,379 radiation belt this morning so I'd I 697 00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:12,969 meant to put it on before I came in Liz 698 00:31:16,649 --> 00:31:14,799 made me a radiation belt when I'm sorry 699 00:31:19,319 --> 00:31:16,659 I will leap out to the car and get it so 700 00:31:22,139 --> 00:31:19,329 you can all see her creation so anyway 701 00:31:24,119 --> 00:31:22,149 enough of me blabbing on so onto my onto 702 00:31:26,489 --> 00:31:24,129 my slides so dave did a really nice job 703 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:26,499 and I'm sure Barbara did also of setting 704 00:31:30,239 --> 00:31:28,690 up you know why it's so important for us 705 00:31:33,239 --> 00:31:30,249 to understand the Sun and the solar 706 00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:33,249 system connections it's not just the Sun 707 00:31:37,979 --> 00:31:36,129 and the effect on our planet but we you 708 00:31:39,839 --> 00:31:37,989 know all of the planets live in the 709 00:31:41,729 --> 00:31:39,849 atmosphere of the Sun so there are many 710 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:41,739 things that we can study here at Earth 711 00:31:46,769 --> 00:31:43,690 that are directly applicable to other 712 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:46,779 planets for example all of the strongly 713 00:31:50,850 --> 00:31:48,970 magnetized planets so Jupiter Saturn 714 00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:50,860 Uranus and Neptune 715 00:31:54,869 --> 00:31:53,049 they all have radiation belts very very 716 00:31:57,029 --> 00:31:54,879 similar to ours 717 00:31:58,919 --> 00:31:57,039 not necessarily the two structure that 718 00:32:01,529 --> 00:31:58,929 Dave was talking about but there are 719 00:32:03,149 --> 00:32:01,539 very large radiation belts around these 720 00:32:05,129 --> 00:32:03,159 planets because they have strong 721 00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:05,139 magnetic fields they actually kind of 722 00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:07,360 constrain and trap the particles into 723 00:32:11,909 --> 00:32:10,240 that region so curiosity is finding 724 00:32:13,889 --> 00:32:11,919 wonderful things on Mars but it is not 725 00:32:17,070 --> 00:32:13,899 going to find a radiation belt there so 726 00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:17,080 so you know we we are looking at things 727 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:19,840 that are applicable not just here but 728 00:32:24,419 --> 00:32:22,210 but throughout the universe the same 729 00:32:26,580 --> 00:32:24,429 processes that accelerate particles in 730 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:26,590 the radiation belts actually cause the 731 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:28,570 Crab Nebula 6,000 light years away to 732 00:32:32,940 --> 00:32:30,970 glow in x-rays so it is fundamental 733 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:32,950 physics that we are studying how the 734 00:32:38,669 --> 00:32:37,210 next slide please Mike okay and this is 735 00:32:40,259 --> 00:32:38,679 a still or is that a movie is that I 736 00:32:42,029 --> 00:32:40,269 think it may be just a still no it's 737 00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:42,039 gonna be a movie excellent 738 00:32:47,249 --> 00:32:44,769 so here we see a big solar event coming 739 00:32:49,470 --> 00:32:47,259 and smacking into the magnetosphere this 740 00:32:52,289 --> 00:32:49,480 is a nice model from the University of 741 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:52,299 Maryland and showing you know how the 742 00:32:56,759 --> 00:32:54,970 the magnetosphere responds to what's 743 00:32:58,470 --> 00:32:56,769 coming from the Sun so the easy thing to 744 00:32:59,909 --> 00:32:58,480 do is to look up see the aurora and say 745 00:33:02,220 --> 00:32:59,919 you've got a space weather event 746 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:02,230 obviously for radiation you can't see 747 00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:04,450 radiation so we have to send probes out 748 00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:09,070 into into that region of space thank you 749 00:33:15,019 --> 00:33:10,720 I feel like Vanna White and now the next 750 00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:15,029 slide okay so here we have a picture of 751 00:33:20,090 --> 00:33:17,710 James Van Alen working this is when they 752 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:20,100 were discovering the radiation belts 753 00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:21,970 basically if there was a thought bubble 754 00:33:25,710 --> 00:33:24,129 above there it would say oh dear what's 755 00:33:27,269 --> 00:33:25,720 this signal I keep saying and why is it 756 00:33:29,970 --> 00:33:27,279 cropping up it wasn't supposed to be 757 00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:29,980 there and after a while of trying to 758 00:33:33,629 --> 00:33:32,049 make it go away they finally said okay 759 00:33:35,159 --> 00:33:33,639 we must have a radiation belt there so 760 00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:35,169 it was the first discovery of the space 761 00:33:42,269 --> 00:33:38,769 age back in 1958 and that was what led 762 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:42,279 to the also fuel subsequent missions to 763 00:33:46,019 --> 00:33:43,690 go and find the outer radiation belt 764 00:33:47,639 --> 00:33:46,029 because with Explorer one Van Alen found 765 00:33:50,340 --> 00:33:47,649 the inner one and you can see in with 766 00:33:52,109 --> 00:33:50,350 Karl McIlwain who actually was the was 767 00:33:54,180 --> 00:33:52,119 the thesis adviser of a number of the 768 00:33:56,620 --> 00:33:54,190 science team members that Craig kletzing 769 00:33:59,470 --> 00:33:56,630 won from that the University of Iowa 770 00:34:01,450 --> 00:33:59,480 who is the PI of our emphasis instrument 771 00:34:03,730 --> 00:34:01,460 that's the magnetic fields and waves 772 00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:03,740 instrument that was his thesis adviser 773 00:34:09,550 --> 00:34:07,910 Barry mock my boss is also mustn't 774 00:34:11,350 --> 00:34:09,560 forget it so he's that was his thesis 775 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:11,360 adviser there of course is James Van 776 00:34:17,740 --> 00:34:14,330 Allen George Ludwik and Karl Pickering 777 00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:17,750 on the end all feverishly finding the 778 00:34:21,130 --> 00:34:19,520 radiation belts and on the next slide 779 00:34:23,590 --> 00:34:21,140 you'll see a picture that though I think 780 00:34:26,020 --> 00:34:23,600 they were quite happy there but so 781 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:26,030 that's the press conference where James 782 00:34:30,370 --> 00:34:27,890 Van Allen said we have radiation belts 783 00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:30,380 the reason they are called radiation 784 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:32,510 belts is he was actually out lecturing 785 00:34:37,210 --> 00:34:35,090 and he was trying to explain where they 786 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:37,220 were and he was having some trouble and 787 00:34:41,020 --> 00:34:38,810 one of the students said oh you mean 788 00:34:42,730 --> 00:34:41,030 like a belt goes around like a belt and 789 00:34:45,130 --> 00:34:42,740 he said yep that's it so that's why they 790 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:45,140 are the Van Allen radiation belts next 791 00:34:48,460 --> 00:34:46,010 slide please 792 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:48,470 so here he is gracing the cover of Time 793 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:50,210 magazine in fact not once but twice he 794 00:34:53,620 --> 00:34:51,770 got on the cover of Time magazine and 795 00:34:55,390 --> 00:34:53,630 this was the original picture that we 796 00:34:58,540 --> 00:34:55,400 thought we would see in the radiation 797 00:35:01,420 --> 00:34:58,550 belts this very stable in a belt which 798 00:35:03,220 --> 00:35:01,430 we we know is stable well we're gonna 799 00:35:04,900 --> 00:35:03,230 find out actually how stable it is 800 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:04,910 but then the outer radiation but we also 801 00:35:09,790 --> 00:35:06,890 thought that was very stable when we 802 00:35:11,590 --> 00:35:09,800 when we first went up so subsequent 803 00:35:14,770 --> 00:35:11,600 missions have then found that the outer 804 00:35:17,170 --> 00:35:14,780 radiation belt is extremely dynamic but 805 00:35:19,180 --> 00:35:17,180 the the puzzling thing to us is that it 806 00:35:22,330 --> 00:35:19,190 doesn't always react the same way so you 807 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:22,340 can have a nice solar storm coming 808 00:35:26,350 --> 00:35:24,170 towards you and it causes the radiation 809 00:35:29,230 --> 00:35:26,360 belts to pump up get really big both in 810 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:29,240 size and in strength another one can 811 00:35:31,780 --> 00:35:30,530 come by just a few months later and 812 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:31,790 actually cause the radiation belt to 813 00:35:35,650 --> 00:35:34,490 shrink and then you know a couple of 814 00:35:37,090 --> 00:35:35,660 months later one comes by and the 815 00:35:39,460 --> 00:35:37,100 radiation belts didn't appear to not 816 00:35:41,530 --> 00:35:39,470 even notice anything had gone by whereas 817 00:35:45,220 --> 00:35:41,540 the solar signatures all look the same 818 00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:45,230 or similar nice Aurora with them all but 819 00:35:49,060 --> 00:35:46,880 the radiation belt responses are very 820 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:49,070 different so what we know is that while 821 00:35:53,860 --> 00:35:51,650 we've made great strides on saying hey 822 00:35:55,150 --> 00:35:53,870 they respond to the Sun we don't really 823 00:35:57,580 --> 00:35:55,160 understand why they respond in different 824 00:35:59,800 --> 00:35:57,590 ways so it's almost like making a cake 825 00:36:01,390 --> 00:35:59,810 and you have your recipe you're not 826 00:36:02,980 --> 00:36:01,400 quite sure if the right quantities of 827 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:02,990 what and one day you get a flourless 828 00:36:06,610 --> 00:36:04,370 chocolate cake and another day you get 829 00:36:07,330 --> 00:36:06,620 an angel food cake that anyone who bakes 830 00:36:10,810 --> 00:36:07,340 understands 831 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:10,820 that analogy so next slide please 832 00:36:17,530 --> 00:36:13,370 okay so we have the two spacecraft as 833 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:17,540 dave said - are much better than one no 834 00:36:21,010 --> 00:36:19,490 we do not have one as a spare it is 835 00:36:24,370 --> 00:36:21,020 there is a scientific reason that we 836 00:36:26,110 --> 00:36:24,380 have the two if you are I guess I'll do 837 00:36:28,780 --> 00:36:26,120 the ants on the cork because Mike likes 838 00:36:30,430 --> 00:36:28,790 the ants on the cork so if you have two 839 00:36:33,730 --> 00:36:30,440 ants or you have an ant sitting on a 840 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:33,740 cork in a large bathtub of water and it 841 00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:36,290 suddenly goes down and up and it has no 842 00:36:40,420 --> 00:36:38,480 idea why it's really non down or up it 843 00:36:42,430 --> 00:36:40,430 just knows it went down or up but if it 844 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:42,440 has a friend another ant and in this 845 00:36:46,330 --> 00:36:43,730 we're assuming that ants can talk 846 00:36:49,210 --> 00:36:46,340 clearly but and it says it says to the 847 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:49,220 ant on the other side did you just go up 848 00:36:52,990 --> 00:36:51,410 and down and the other answers yes I did 849 00:36:54,670 --> 00:36:53,000 well did you go up and down at the same 850 00:36:57,220 --> 00:36:54,680 time as me in which case it was a really 851 00:36:58,750 --> 00:36:57,230 big feature or did you go up and down a 852 00:37:00,730 --> 00:36:58,760 little bit after me a little bit before 853 00:37:02,140 --> 00:37:00,740 was it a bigger was it a smaller and 854 00:37:04,660 --> 00:37:02,150 suddenly you start building up the 855 00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:04,670 picture of the dynamics you also are 856 00:37:08,110 --> 00:37:06,110 going to have two spacecraft flying 857 00:37:09,910 --> 00:37:08,120 through the same phenomena fairly 858 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:09,920 quickly so instead of one spacecraft 859 00:37:12,730 --> 00:37:11,330 that would have to go around await nine 860 00:37:14,050 --> 00:37:12,740 hours to come back and give miss only 861 00:37:15,790 --> 00:37:14,060 knows what happens in nine hours and the 862 00:37:18,010 --> 00:37:15,800 magnetosphere you've got another one 863 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:18,020 coming through very quickly so that's 864 00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:20,210 why we want to have two we continually 865 00:37:24,490 --> 00:37:23,030 vary the space between them the orbits 866 00:37:28,180 --> 00:37:24,500 of the two spacecraft are very slightly 867 00:37:31,170 --> 00:37:28,190 different so tomorrow morning at 78 868 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:31,180 minutes after launch we will hopefully 869 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:34,850 separate spacecraft a from from the 870 00:37:39,970 --> 00:37:37,130 rocket then the Centaur will reorient 871 00:37:42,220 --> 00:37:39,980 turn around go up a little bit in Apogee 872 00:37:44,290 --> 00:37:42,230 re spin up these things are amazing by 873 00:37:47,230 --> 00:37:44,300 the way these centers just really kept 874 00:37:48,910 --> 00:37:47,240 up but then then it's gonna spin up and 875 00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:48,920 then it's gonna spit out the second one 876 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:50,480 so they will be in very slightly 877 00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:52,970 different orbits so the good thing about 878 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:54,560 that is the orbit periods are a little 879 00:37:58,900 --> 00:37:56,330 bit different and they actually lap one 880 00:38:01,330 --> 00:37:58,910 another so you know we're going to get 881 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:01,340 continually varying spaces between the 882 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:04,490 spacecraft as the mission goes on what 883 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:05,810 else can I tell you about this so that 884 00:38:10,450 --> 00:38:07,970 you see the orbit here cuts through the 885 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:10,460 inner belt and then swings out so it 886 00:38:14,620 --> 00:38:12,890 goes pretty fast down through perigee 887 00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:14,630 and then cut it does a nice cut through 888 00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:16,640 the inner belt and then swings out and 889 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:18,320 we'll do a nice sort of longitudinal 890 00:38:23,059 --> 00:38:20,730 sweep through the outer belt 891 00:38:24,589 --> 00:38:23,069 and characterize so we went out we're 892 00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:24,599 getting the inner and the outer and 893 00:38:28,849 --> 00:38:26,400 thanks to an instrument that was 894 00:38:31,220 --> 00:38:28,859 contributed to us from the National 895 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:31,230 Reconnaissance Office we actually have a 896 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:34,530 really nice high-energy proton detector 897 00:38:39,319 --> 00:38:37,770 that will go up to 2 GeV which is really 898 00:38:42,770 --> 00:38:39,329 going to do a nice job of seeing what's 899 00:38:44,270 --> 00:38:42,780 in the inner belt and and then when we 900 00:38:45,950 --> 00:38:44,280 come through the outer belt we'll go 901 00:38:47,539 --> 00:38:45,960 through the quieter regions where the 902 00:38:48,799 --> 00:38:47,549 hope instrument will be really important 903 00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:48,809 where we're looking at that low energy 904 00:38:54,109 --> 00:38:52,049 plasma and then coming out the mag ice 905 00:38:56,660 --> 00:38:54,119 will pick up kind of in the middle range 906 00:38:58,910 --> 00:38:56,670 of the of the particles and repped will 907 00:39:01,940 --> 00:38:58,920 pick up the high end of the outer belt 908 00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:01,950 particles so I know you've all you're 909 00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:03,359 probably probably know more about the 910 00:39:07,250 --> 00:39:05,609 instruments than I do but so we have we 911 00:39:09,260 --> 00:39:07,260 have this nice particle suite that 912 00:39:11,839 --> 00:39:09,270 covers from the very very low energies 913 00:39:15,049 --> 00:39:11,849 right up to the very high energies in 914 00:39:17,809 --> 00:39:15,059 the in the inner belt we also have very 915 00:39:19,099 --> 00:39:17,819 nice fields and waves instruments so if 916 00:39:22,549 --> 00:39:19,109 you when you look at the spacecraft you 917 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:22,559 see we have these long booms that come 918 00:39:26,359 --> 00:39:24,450 out from the solar panels we put the 919 00:39:28,430 --> 00:39:26,369 magnetometers on there there is a search 920 00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:28,440 coil magnetometer on one side that's 921 00:39:33,589 --> 00:39:30,420 looking at the sort of high frequency 922 00:39:36,319 --> 00:39:33,599 magnetic fields and the AC ranges they 923 00:39:38,620 --> 00:39:36,329 fluxgate which is on the other side that 924 00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:38,630 is looking at the DC or the lower 925 00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:41,280 frequency magnetic fields they're add-on 926 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:42,960 booms because we really want them to 927 00:39:46,099 --> 00:39:44,730 sample the medium they're traveling 928 00:39:47,780 --> 00:39:46,109 through not tell me what's going on on 929 00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:47,790 the spacecraft so we have an 930 00:39:51,890 --> 00:39:49,710 unbelievably magnetically quiet 931 00:39:54,349 --> 00:39:51,900 spacecraft that couch will probably talk 932 00:39:55,039 --> 00:39:54,359 a little bit about just not yes 933 00:39:58,940 --> 00:39:55,049 absolutely 934 00:40:01,280 --> 00:39:58,950 okay so here's now anyway so it's a very 935 00:40:03,799 --> 00:40:01,290 very very quiet spacecraft but we put 936 00:40:05,690 --> 00:40:03,809 them out on these booms so that they are 937 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:05,700 really telling us what's happening in 938 00:40:10,010 --> 00:40:07,890 the medium so there are also six 939 00:40:12,319 --> 00:40:10,020 electric field booms so the spacecraft 940 00:40:14,539 --> 00:40:12,329 is spinning one of the reasons it's 941 00:40:16,730 --> 00:40:14,549 spinning is we can put much simpler 942 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:16,740 particle detectors on there and allow 943 00:40:20,329 --> 00:40:18,450 the spacecraft to take the particle 944 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:20,339 through the entire magnetic field and 945 00:40:23,839 --> 00:40:21,690 pick up every single one of those 946 00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:23,849 particle populations all those different 947 00:40:29,059 --> 00:40:25,680 pitch angles or coding angles that they 948 00:40:31,790 --> 00:40:29,069 they move around with so that's one 949 00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:31,800 reason for spinning the other is we have 950 00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:34,710 electric field booms the ones on the top 951 00:40:38,330 --> 00:40:36,480 and bottom of the spacecraft are 6 952 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:38,340 meters long they're Stacy booms they're 953 00:40:41,870 --> 00:40:40,530 rigid but ones that come up from the 954 00:40:45,530 --> 00:40:41,880 side which you can't see on this picture 955 00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:45,540 are 50 meters long each so we're a 956 00:40:49,610 --> 00:40:47,520 hundred meters across or the size of a 957 00:40:52,490 --> 00:40:49,620 football field when those antennae go 958 00:40:54,830 --> 00:40:52,500 out and they are thin wires so spinning 959 00:40:56,690 --> 00:40:54,840 that the centrifugal force keeps those 960 00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:56,700 out so that that's why we're spinning 961 00:41:01,250 --> 00:40:59,040 what else can I tell you so we've done 962 00:41:04,250 --> 00:41:01,260 why why do you have to get up so ungodly 963 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:04,260 early okay 964 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:06,450 so apart from the fact that we've got 965 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:07,890 less chance of an afternoon storm at 966 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:09,330 4:00 in the morning which is really good 967 00:41:12,890 --> 00:41:11,130 the other reason is this point of the 968 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:12,900 orbit which we call Apogee the the 969 00:41:16,730 --> 00:41:14,730 furthest point away from the earth that 970 00:41:19,310 --> 00:41:16,740 actually walks around all of the local 971 00:41:21,590 --> 00:41:19,320 times as the mission continues it takes 972 00:41:23,930 --> 00:41:21,600 us two years to go all the way around 973 00:41:25,940 --> 00:41:23,940 plus a little bit and the most 974 00:41:29,090 --> 00:41:25,950 interesting region scientifically is 975 00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:29,100 between local dawn so if you look you 976 00:41:32,180 --> 00:41:30,000 know when you when you look straight up 977 00:41:33,860 --> 00:41:32,190 and it's 6 a.m. in the morning then 978 00:41:36,500 --> 00:41:33,870 that's local dawn and that's when the 979 00:41:38,270 --> 00:41:36,510 apogee is is there sweep that round to 980 00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:38,280 midnight that's the most interesting 981 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:41,250 region if we go for 2 years we can get 982 00:41:47,180 --> 00:41:43,650 that twice as long as we start our 983 00:41:48,620 --> 00:41:47,190 operations at 6 local time so take 60 984 00:41:51,410 --> 00:41:48,630 days to Commission you have to bring 985 00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:51,420 those instruments on very slowly so I'm 986 00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:52,710 afraid you'll have to get ups to watch 987 00:41:56,450 --> 00:41:55,110 it at 407 but but nighttime launches are 988 00:41:58,670 --> 00:41:56,460 way more spectacular so I think you'll 989 00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:58,680 be really happy about that so we've done 990 00:42:04,420 --> 00:42:00,960 y2y still ungodly early and why all 991 00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:04,430 those booms looking up okay next slide 992 00:42:10,850 --> 00:42:06,960 so this is the movie the two dots 993 00:42:13,310 --> 00:42:10,860 represent rbsp and this is done using 994 00:42:14,390 --> 00:42:13,320 Sam pecks data and you see the two of 995 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:14,400 them you actually see they're sort of 996 00:42:18,170 --> 00:42:16,050 chasing one another and it does vary 997 00:42:20,990 --> 00:42:18,180 here comes a storm so the storm this is 998 00:42:23,090 --> 00:42:21,000 the DST or disturb storm time index in 999 00:42:25,490 --> 00:42:23,100 the top corner here you're about to see 1000 00:42:27,890 --> 00:42:25,500 it hit start with a storm and there's 1001 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:27,900 radiation and belts are responding very 1002 00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:30,090 dramatically not as dramatically as they 1003 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:31,680 will to a smaller storm coming up 1004 00:42:35,870 --> 00:42:34,050 actually but so the so the two 1005 00:42:36,730 --> 00:42:35,880 spacecraft as we said a lapping one 1006 00:42:39,099 --> 00:42:36,740 another 1007 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:39,109 and well they're also sweeping out it's 1008 00:42:42,220 --> 00:42:40,730 almost like petals of the flower they're 1009 00:42:44,290 --> 00:42:42,230 going to keep sweeping that out until we 1010 00:42:46,359 --> 00:42:44,300 have the whole thing covered it's a bit 1011 00:42:50,050 --> 00:42:46,369 like a spirograph or that you play with 1012 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:50,060 there's a kid and I think we'll go on to 1013 00:42:54,430 --> 00:42:51,290 the next one because this is a long one 1014 00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:54,440 okay so I did mention that we are doing 1015 00:42:59,710 --> 00:42:57,200 fundamental particle acceleration if you 1016 00:43:01,720 --> 00:42:59,720 look take an aerial shot of CERN and 1017 00:43:03,099 --> 00:43:01,730 look down at that particle detector you 1018 00:43:05,230 --> 00:43:03,109 and check particles into it they get 1019 00:43:07,180 --> 00:43:05,240 energized it's just a big radiation belt 1020 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:07,190 that's exactly what we're doing they're 1021 00:43:10,810 --> 00:43:09,170 particles are in our own magnetosphere a 1022 00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:10,820 common misconception people think 1023 00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:12,560 particles come from the Sun and enter it 1024 00:43:16,540 --> 00:43:14,000 and that's what pumps up the radiation 1025 00:43:18,250 --> 00:43:16,550 belts it's the energy from the Sun we 1026 00:43:20,020 --> 00:43:18,260 are very very full of particles in the 1027 00:43:21,849 --> 00:43:20,030 magnetosphere it is not empty there are 1028 00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:21,859 a lot there that you know the particles 1029 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:23,089 are injected from within the 1030 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:24,890 magnetosphere and get very highly 1031 00:43:30,849 --> 00:43:28,730 energized so same processes are causing 1032 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:30,859 particle acceleration on the Sun giving 1033 00:43:35,260 --> 00:43:32,810 rise to a lot of the solar activity 1034 00:43:37,630 --> 00:43:35,270 that's then driving the radiation belt 1035 00:43:40,030 --> 00:43:37,640 response there's the large radiation 1036 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:40,040 belts at Jupiter which is the most 1037 00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:42,050 intense radiation and I think it's bad 1038 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:43,910 where we're going but wow that one would 1039 00:43:49,810 --> 00:43:46,490 be really bad and there's a nice picture 1040 00:43:54,130 --> 00:43:49,820 of the Crab Nebula at the top there next 1041 00:43:55,930 --> 00:43:54,140 slide so nice artist's rendition of the 1042 00:43:59,980 --> 00:43:55,940 two spacecraft is this a movie or is 1043 00:44:02,440 --> 00:43:59,990 this just a still just a still okay so 1044 00:44:07,470 --> 00:44:02,450 we've done the instruments we've done 1045 00:44:10,779 --> 00:44:09,339 okay 1046 00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:10,789 are you largely going to be in an 1047 00:44:13,870 --> 00:44:12,319 equatorial orbit or do you have a high 1048 00:44:15,579 --> 00:44:13,880 inclination so you can look at all parts 1049 00:44:18,489 --> 00:44:15,589 of the belt even the ones near the poles 1050 00:44:21,249 --> 00:44:18,499 nope awesome question we are down at 10 1051 00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:21,259 degrees 10 degrees inclination we want 1052 00:44:25,420 --> 00:44:22,880 to get as close to the equator as 1053 00:44:27,549 --> 00:44:25,430 possible if you think about particle 1054 00:44:29,049 --> 00:44:27,559 just particle motion there are three 1055 00:44:31,089 --> 00:44:29,059 different ways that a particle moves 1056 00:44:33,969 --> 00:44:31,099 around the field line it goes round and 1057 00:44:36,579 --> 00:44:33,979 round it it also bounces almost from 1058 00:44:38,380 --> 00:44:36,589 pole to pole and it also drifts from 1059 00:44:41,019 --> 00:44:38,390 magnetic field line to magnetic field 1060 00:44:44,170 --> 00:44:41,029 line so it's a kind of a complex dance 1061 00:44:46,539 --> 00:44:44,180 it does around the magnetosphere there 1062 00:44:47,949 --> 00:44:46,549 are some particles that are almost field 1063 00:44:50,049 --> 00:44:47,959 aligned and they are the ones that are 1064 00:44:52,209 --> 00:44:50,059 often lost as dave said in the slot 1065 00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:52,219 region or causing the aurora there are 1066 00:44:56,109 --> 00:44:54,529 some that that a bit actually are kind 1067 00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:56,119 of lying down a ton like what we call a 1068 00:44:59,199 --> 00:44:57,890 90 degree pitch angle so they're 1069 00:45:01,329 --> 00:44:59,209 literally just staying in that 1070 00:45:03,430 --> 00:45:01,339 equatorial region so if we don't get 1071 00:45:05,890 --> 00:45:03,440 right down to those particles they are 1072 00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:05,900 not going to get to us so we have to lie 1073 00:45:15,189 --> 00:45:12,049 down in that in that orbit goodness 1074 00:45:17,229 --> 00:45:15,199 forbid if there's an issue during the 1075 00:45:19,059 --> 00:45:17,239 during the mission class like if if 1076 00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:19,069 something were to happen to one of the 1077 00:45:25,439 --> 00:45:21,849 spacecraft how much does that change 1078 00:45:28,449 --> 00:45:25,449 what you're looking at and the kind of 1079 00:45:30,189 --> 00:45:28,459 effects you expect to see well it would 1080 00:45:32,829 --> 00:45:30,199 it would we would still get great 1081 00:45:34,299 --> 00:45:32,839 science results because the instruments 1082 00:45:36,459 --> 00:45:34,309 that are flown on the spacecraft are 1083 00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:36,469 literally the cutting edge you know most 1084 00:45:40,029 --> 00:45:38,089 sophisticated instruments ever flown in 1085 00:45:41,559 --> 00:45:40,039 this region and you know even if you 1086 00:45:44,019 --> 00:45:41,569 talk to some of my pis they'll tell you 1087 00:45:46,509 --> 00:45:44,029 well we were selected in 2006 but new 1088 00:45:47,499 --> 00:45:46,519 technology came along while we were you 1089 00:45:49,959 --> 00:45:47,509 know building and we've even 1090 00:45:51,219 --> 00:45:49,969 incorporated that into so you know we 1091 00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:51,229 really are flying cutting edge 1092 00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:52,880 instruments so we would still get great 1093 00:45:57,339 --> 00:45:55,609 science only if we only had one what we 1094 00:45:59,009 --> 00:45:57,349 would lose would be this ability to 1095 00:46:01,239 --> 00:45:59,019 really characterize the dynamics 1096 00:46:03,130 --> 00:46:01,249 particularly small scale features we 1097 00:46:05,199 --> 00:46:03,140 really want to know is this is this 1098 00:46:06,759 --> 00:46:05,209 something that's changing in time or is 1099 00:46:09,039 --> 00:46:06,769 this something that's changing in space 1100 00:46:11,319 --> 00:46:09,049 and the only way you can really unravel 1101 00:46:13,359 --> 00:46:11,329 temporal versus facial is with two 1102 00:46:16,029 --> 00:46:13,369 spacecraft so that would be a big 1103 00:46:17,439 --> 00:46:16,039 drawback to put it mildly 1104 00:46:19,059 --> 00:46:17,449 it was certainly put a cramp e'en in 1105 00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:19,069 day's plans to get in that Nobel Prize 1106 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:21,110 anyway but some 1107 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:23,850 assuming assuming that then we would 1108 00:46:29,060 --> 00:46:26,810 still get great science with one yeah 1109 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:29,070 okay and then at my last slide cuz I did 1110 00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:30,450 forget one didn't I Mike thank you for 1111 00:46:33,260 --> 00:46:32,160 bringing it up okay so I was going to 1112 00:46:35,900 --> 00:46:33,270 talk about radiation damage to 1113 00:46:37,970 --> 00:46:35,910 satellites so I always like to say our 1114 00:46:39,940 --> 00:46:37,980 mission is a fundamental physics mission 1115 00:46:42,170 --> 00:46:39,950 we are studying particle acceleration 1116 00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:42,180 it's not just rocket science it's just 1117 00:46:46,310 --> 00:46:44,730 particle acceleration and that's it's a 1118 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:46,320 fundamental process that's taking place 1119 00:46:50,060 --> 00:46:48,330 all over the universe but the really 1120 00:46:53,150 --> 00:46:50,070 cool thing about this is it has 1121 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:53,160 practical applications and here's just 1122 00:46:55,820 --> 00:46:54,690 one I know Dave talked in length about a 1123 00:46:57,830 --> 00:46:55,830 number of different space weather 1124 00:46:59,330 --> 00:46:57,840 effects but really in the radiation 1125 00:47:01,040 --> 00:46:59,340 bolts these are the things that we worry 1126 00:47:02,660 --> 00:47:01,050 about for our satellites particularly 1127 00:47:04,850 --> 00:47:02,670 the outer radiation belt because the 1128 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:04,860 inner one occasionally dips down and 1129 00:47:08,050 --> 00:47:06,210 covers the space station but this is 1130 00:47:10,940 --> 00:47:08,060 really what we're worried about Frost 1131 00:47:12,740 --> 00:47:10,950 because your GPS are out in here and 1132 00:47:14,990 --> 00:47:12,750 goodness knows no one uses a map anymore 1133 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:15,000 you just pull out a phone I mean 1134 00:47:18,170 --> 00:47:16,410 seriously do you turn off at the airport 1135 00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:18,180 and then you look up the address for 1136 00:47:20,780 --> 00:47:19,440 your hotel and your email and then you 1137 00:47:22,940 --> 00:47:20,790 hit the button and it just tells you 1138 00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,950 where to go so I'm kind of really keen 1139 00:47:26,810 --> 00:47:24,720 on my GPS actually so I really want to 1140 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:26,820 protect those but all of your satellite 1141 00:47:32,060 --> 00:47:29,850 communications satellite TV you know we 1142 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:32,070 just we don't even realize half the time 1143 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:34,530 what we rely on this space region for so 1144 00:47:39,610 --> 00:47:36,210 you know we can have single event upsets 1145 00:47:43,130 --> 00:47:39,620 that can cause computer errors failures 1146 00:47:45,020 --> 00:47:43,140 it you can have a surface charging just 1147 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:45,030 because suddenly the the medium you're 1148 00:47:47,630 --> 00:47:46,410 going through is much more dense much 1149 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:47,640 more particles and it's just like a 1150 00:47:52,100 --> 00:47:50,610 friction that you can get the the 1151 00:47:54,110 --> 00:47:52,110 particularly things the things we all 1152 00:47:56,810 --> 00:47:54,120 really dread deep direct direct 1153 00:47:59,420 --> 00:47:56,820 discharge because that is just that's 1154 00:48:00,680 --> 00:47:59,430 often a killer so that's actually why 1155 00:48:02,570 --> 00:48:00,690 you put lots and lots of shielding 1156 00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:02,580 around all of your electronics and we 1157 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:05,040 are a sort of armor plated spacecraft we 1158 00:48:09,620 --> 00:48:07,050 have aluminum shielding it's about the 1159 00:48:11,300 --> 00:48:09,630 thickness of a slice of bread all around 1160 00:48:11,690 --> 00:48:11,310 and it's practically anything we can 1161 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:11,700 shield 1162 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:15,090 the apertures of the instruments are 1163 00:48:19,010 --> 00:48:16,290 about the only thing that are not 1164 00:48:20,540 --> 00:48:19,020 covered in in like armor plating and 1165 00:48:22,580 --> 00:48:20,550 then solar panel degradation just 1166 00:48:24,740 --> 00:48:22,590 hitting high-energy particles just 1167 00:48:26,780 --> 00:48:24,750 hitting your solar panels and damaging 1168 00:48:27,820 --> 00:48:26,790 them so and we are doing fundamental 1169 00:48:30,490 --> 00:48:27,830 physics and 1170 00:48:35,420 --> 00:48:30,500 practical applications and that really 1171 00:48:39,650 --> 00:48:37,700 [Music] 1172 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:39,660 my question actually comes from it one 1173 00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:41,130 of my Twitter followers Garrett is here 1174 00:48:44,090 --> 00:48:42,510 he wanted to know if the probes are 1175 00:48:46,310 --> 00:48:44,100 gonna be named after the launch I know 1176 00:48:49,460 --> 00:48:46,320 right now they're just a and B and when 1177 00:48:51,620 --> 00:48:49,470 we we were the Grail Tweetup together so 1178 00:48:53,420 --> 00:48:51,630 I know afterwards they were named after 1179 00:48:55,490 --> 00:48:53,430 the launch was that will that be the 1180 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:55,500 case with these there are plans to 1181 00:48:59,420 --> 00:48:57,330 rename the mission after the launch 1182 00:49:00,860 --> 00:48:59,430 I believe the spacecraft will always be 1183 00:49:04,700 --> 00:49:00,870 affectionately known as the radiation 1184 00:49:06,380 --> 00:49:04,710 belt storm probes but there are plans to 1185 00:49:09,380 --> 00:49:06,390 rename the mission it hasn't been 1186 00:49:11,060 --> 00:49:09,390 completely finalized what it will be but 1187 00:49:12,770 --> 00:49:11,070 I have always called them van and Alan 1188 00:49:14,540 --> 00:49:12,780 them they're my two babies one is fat 1189 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:14,550 and the other is Alan and I've worked I 1190 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:15,690 mean these guys I've worked with him for 1191 00:49:21,290 --> 00:49:19,050 11 years and I've they're they're older 1192 00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:21,300 than my children so they are they are 1193 00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:31,370 the either of the probes not not planned 1194 00:49:34,490 --> 00:49:32,880 I mean we're certainly looking at that 1195 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:34,500 you know if you you get these these 1196 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:36,810 scientists we're awful bunch so we you 1197 00:49:39,590 --> 00:49:38,130 know we build our instruments and then 1198 00:49:40,580 --> 00:49:39,600 we work out what we can really do with 1199 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:40,590 them you know you have your requirements 1200 00:49:45,050 --> 00:49:42,450 and you build to that but you know for 1201 00:49:47,330 --> 00:49:45,060 example burn Blake is is a cosmic ray 1202 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:47,340 fiend and I absolutely guarantee that 1203 00:49:51,050 --> 00:49:48,570 the first thing that he looks for is 1204 00:49:54,170 --> 00:49:51,060 cosmic rays so you know I'm not saying 1205 00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:54,180 no it's not a planned result but as Dave 1206 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:55,680 said the most exciting science is the 1207 00:50:03,560 --> 00:49:56,850 stuff you didn't plan for 1208 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:03,570 so nothing planned excuse me the picture 1209 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:04,650 you showed earlier with a three 1210 00:50:08,780 --> 00:50:06,090 gentleman holding the rocket out that's 1211 00:50:11,090 --> 00:50:08,790 the doctor's Pickering funnel and and 1212 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:11,100 dr. Bowen brought on the great rocket 1213 00:50:18,590 --> 00:50:15,810 scientist obviously that you know what 1214 00:50:20,570 --> 00:50:18,600 we discovered about the Van Allen Van 1215 00:50:23,870 --> 00:50:20,580 Allen radiation belts really helped to 1216 00:50:27,650 --> 00:50:23,880 in the rocket design through through all 1217 00:50:28,730 --> 00:50:27,660 the well ever since then absolutely do 1218 00:50:31,100 --> 00:50:28,740 you think we're gonna get more 1219 00:50:34,430 --> 00:50:31,110 information now absolutely really gonna 1220 00:50:36,770 --> 00:50:34,440 boost yes in the future this is gonna 1221 00:50:40,190 --> 00:50:36,780 make dramatic changes to to satellite 1222 00:50:42,260 --> 00:50:40,200 design and be models that we use to sort 1223 00:50:44,810 --> 00:50:42,270 of estimate the shielding and the 1224 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:44,820 lifetime of spacecraft are twenty more 1225 00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:46,770 than twenty years old and we know just 1226 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:49,920 with new data that some of them are over 1227 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:52,170 predicting there the you know the medium 1228 00:50:57,500 --> 00:50:55,530 and some are under predicting and that's 1229 00:50:59,210 --> 00:50:57,510 both that is bad on both counts because 1230 00:51:00,770 --> 00:50:59,220 if you under predict well I mean 1231 00:51:02,090 --> 00:51:00,780 obviously it doesn't take a rocket 1232 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:02,100 scientist to tell you what's gonna 1233 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:03,570 happen if you under predictive what the 1234 00:51:07,250 --> 00:51:05,370 medium was like but if you over predict 1235 00:51:08,750 --> 00:51:07,260 it you've put too much shielding on so 1236 00:51:11,180 --> 00:51:08,760 you see you've spent more on launching 1237 00:51:12,650 --> 00:51:11,190 it than you needed to and you know 1238 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:12,660 anyone who works in the space industry 1239 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:14,970 will tell you lighter is better when 1240 00:51:18,770 --> 00:51:16,290 you're you know you don't want to launch 1241 00:51:22,490 --> 00:51:18,780 a tank if you know a mini-cooper would 1242 00:51:24,170 --> 00:51:22,500 have done so you know you really do want 1243 00:51:26,180 --> 00:51:24,180 to do much much better at predicting 1244 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:26,190 what's going to happen also operational 1245 00:51:29,330 --> 00:51:27,570 spacecraft if you don't want to 1246 00:51:31,370 --> 00:51:29,340 underestimate the life of those and not 1247 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:31,380 launch one quick enough nor do you want 1248 00:51:35,180 --> 00:51:33,330 to overestimate launch one and then 1249 00:51:36,690 --> 00:51:35,190 leave it in storage and now you've got 1250 00:51:38,190 --> 00:51:36,700 two being damaged you know 1251 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:38,200 you you really do need to do a much 1252 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:40,930 better job so this mission is is 1253 00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:42,970 tailored to to really update those 1254 00:51:49,859 --> 00:51:45,760 models so the ones we use now are 88 and 1255 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:49,869 88 and 89 and 89 there's already beta 1256 00:51:54,180 --> 00:51:52,690 versions of those just waiting it's like 1257 00:51:56,670 --> 00:51:54,190 they've got everything else set up and 1258 00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:56,680 they're waiting for rbsp because this to 1259 00:52:03,990 --> 00:51:59,440 probe information is just going to 1260 00:52:05,460 --> 00:52:04,000 really blow everyone out of the water do 1261 00:52:07,170 --> 00:52:05,470 the two spacecraft talk to one another 1262 00:52:10,380 --> 00:52:07,180 or just to the ground no they're very 1263 00:52:14,270 --> 00:52:10,390 antisocial damn they actually they just 1264 00:52:16,829 --> 00:52:14,280 talk to the ground that was that was a 1265 00:52:19,170 --> 00:52:16,839 decision early on to say it you know to 1266 00:52:22,829 --> 00:52:19,180 save money and they don't really need to 1267 00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:22,839 talk to one another it's a you know they 1268 00:52:28,490 --> 00:52:25,089 they the instruments do talk to one 1269 00:52:31,890 --> 00:52:28,500 another on each spacecraft however so 1270 00:52:33,359 --> 00:52:31,900 you know if one particle instrument in 1271 00:52:36,060 --> 00:52:33,369 particular suddenly sees a large 1272 00:52:37,829 --> 00:52:36,070 increase in particle fluxes it sends out 1273 00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:37,839 a signal saying hey you know large 1274 00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:39,910 increase and then the magnetic field and 1275 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:41,920 the electric field instruments will go 1276 00:52:47,370 --> 00:52:43,810 into a very high time resolution mode 1277 00:52:49,319 --> 00:52:47,380 and hope will respond by instead of 1278 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:49,329 taking one proton and one electron it 1279 00:52:52,589 --> 00:52:51,010 will go into a first electron cycle or 1280 00:52:56,670 --> 00:52:52,599 something so that we're getting a lot 1281 00:53:05,540 --> 00:52:56,680 higher time resolution data perfect 1282 00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:08,460 next up we have the chief engineer from 1283 00:53:14,070 --> 00:53:11,920 the applied physics laboratories Space 1284 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:14,080 Department his name as he told me to 1285 00:53:26,580 --> 00:53:24,450 introduce him is couch thanks Jason 1286 00:53:29,359 --> 00:53:26,590 I'd like to speak to you afterwards 1287 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:29,369 about scheduling me to speak after Nikki 1288 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:32,290 she's a she's a tough act to follow I 1289 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:33,970 think you've all probably got the notion 1290 00:53:38,430 --> 00:53:35,050 that the scientists are pretty 1291 00:53:39,540 --> 00:53:38,440 enthusiastic about this this mission and 1292 00:53:41,940 --> 00:53:39,550 believe it or not engineers get 1293 00:53:44,099 --> 00:53:41,950 enthusiastic about their work also all 1294 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:44,109 of this is about all the science that 1295 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:46,650 comes back and the engineers are very 1296 00:53:51,810 --> 00:53:50,650 proud to be able to enable that science 1297 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:51,820 and the knowledge that that brings back 1298 00:53:56,190 --> 00:53:54,130 to us so with that I'd like to tell you 1299 00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:56,200 a little bit about the role of the 1300 00:54:00,210 --> 00:53:58,330 Applied Physics lab in implementing this 1301 00:54:02,790 --> 00:54:00,220 mission and my role as chief engineer at 1302 00:54:04,740 --> 00:54:02,800 the department before I get into that I 1303 00:54:07,109 --> 00:54:04,750 would like to thank dr. Giles for the 1304 00:54:08,730 --> 00:54:07,119 kind words that she said in her opening 1305 00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:08,740 remarks about the performance the 1306 00:54:13,380 --> 00:54:11,680 Applied Physics lab it again it is all 1307 00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:13,390 about the science but it is also very 1308 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:14,800 important to us as an institution to 1309 00:54:20,940 --> 00:54:18,130 make our customer NASA happy with our 1310 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:20,950 performance and to date and we've been 1311 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:22,810 very successful in getting to launch on 1312 00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:25,570 time and on schedule the really hard 1313 00:54:29,609 --> 00:54:27,250 part starts now 1314 00:54:35,460 --> 00:54:29,619 and the payoff for all of that hard work 1315 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:37,260 the Applied Physics lab is the 1316 00:54:40,340 --> 00:54:38,770 implementing institution for NASA for 1317 00:54:43,740 --> 00:54:40,350 the radiation belt storm probes mission 1318 00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:43,750 we designed built integrated tested and 1319 00:54:47,070 --> 00:54:46,000 we will operate both spacecraft during 1320 00:54:49,020 --> 00:54:47,080 the course of the mission we also 1321 00:54:51,450 --> 00:54:49,030 developed the ground system in concert 1322 00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:51,460 with that and we also developed one of 1323 00:54:56,030 --> 00:54:53,200 the instruments that's flying onboard 1324 00:54:59,480 --> 00:54:56,040 the spacecraft GRB spice investigation 1325 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:02,280 this was sort of a repeat performance in 1326 00:55:07,830 --> 00:55:04,450 a way from the stereo mission that we 1327 00:55:10,620 --> 00:55:07,840 also executed for NASA very similar in 1328 00:55:13,020 --> 00:55:10,630 that stereo is an investigation that 1329 00:55:14,609 --> 00:55:13,030 also uses two spacecraft there they're 1330 00:55:17,070 --> 00:55:14,619 in completely different orbit they're in 1331 00:55:19,130 --> 00:55:17,080 a heliocentric orbit around the Sun not 1332 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:19,140 remain in low-earth orbit nevertheless 1333 00:55:22,859 --> 00:55:21,130 there were a lot of valuable lessons 1334 00:55:25,310 --> 00:55:22,869 that we learned in the course of 1335 00:55:27,420 --> 00:55:25,320 building two spacecraft concurrently 1336 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:27,430 launching them and operating them that 1337 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:28,810 we applied to the development of the 1338 00:55:33,750 --> 00:55:31,810 rbsp mission and I think helped make us 1339 00:55:35,940 --> 00:55:33,760 successful programmatically in bringing 1340 00:55:36,770 --> 00:55:35,950 the mission to this point again on cost 1341 00:55:39,090 --> 00:55:36,780 and on schedule 1342 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:39,100 many of the same team members who worked 1343 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:41,770 on stereo also helped implement the rbsp 1344 00:55:46,109 --> 00:55:43,650 mission so that was another advantage to 1345 00:55:48,900 --> 00:55:46,119 being able to retain that workforce and 1346 00:55:51,980 --> 00:55:48,910 having good work for them to do next 1347 00:55:57,020 --> 00:55:54,109 just briefly in my role as chief 1348 00:55:58,760 --> 00:55:57,030 engineer I have to say I love my job too 1349 00:56:01,280 --> 00:55:58,770 and one of the great things about it is 1350 00:56:03,710 --> 00:56:01,290 is that primarily I give advice to 1351 00:56:06,770 --> 00:56:03,720 people I've been at the lab for thirty 1352 00:56:08,180 --> 00:56:06,780 years I've had my share of building a 1353 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:08,190 lot of hardware and delivering hardware 1354 00:56:12,260 --> 00:56:10,290 and delivering systems to launch it it's 1355 00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:12,270 very gratifying work it's also very hard 1356 00:56:15,530 --> 00:56:14,250 work and I'm more than happy at this 1357 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:15,540 point to sort of step aside and let 1358 00:56:18,980 --> 00:56:16,890 other people do all that really hard 1359 00:56:21,530 --> 00:56:18,990 work and to just give advice the the 1360 00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:21,540 hard part of that though is that people 1361 00:56:24,890 --> 00:56:23,760 generally only want good advice which is 1362 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:24,900 a little bit harder than just giving 1363 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:28,170 advice so I perform that function on 1364 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:31,770 rbsp as you're probably aware there are 1365 00:56:36,020 --> 00:56:34,050 literally thousands of details that go 1366 00:56:38,839 --> 00:56:36,030 into implementing a mission like this 1367 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:38,849 and executing it and when problems arise 1368 00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:41,010 as they inevitably do during the course 1369 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:44,400 of the development it sometimes is hard 1370 00:56:49,549 --> 00:56:46,170 for the people who are in the midst of 1371 00:56:51,620 --> 00:56:49,559 dealing with all those details to have 1372 00:56:53,210 --> 00:56:51,630 an overall big picture view of what's 1373 00:56:54,950 --> 00:56:53,220 going on and so that's one of the 1374 00:56:57,230 --> 00:56:54,960 functions that I serve is in that 1375 00:57:00,109 --> 00:56:57,240 engineering oversight role is to provide 1376 00:57:01,970 --> 00:57:00,119 an independent assessment of the 1377 00:57:05,770 --> 00:57:01,980 problems and the proposed resolution 1378 00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:05,780 that the project would like to implement 1379 00:57:10,970 --> 00:57:08,730 I'm also responsible for defining and 1380 00:57:13,099 --> 00:57:10,980 ensuring that the engineering teams 1381 00:57:15,380 --> 00:57:13,109 execute these missions according to the 1382 00:57:17,539 --> 00:57:15,390 proper processes and going through the 1383 00:57:20,089 --> 00:57:17,549 proper reviews and doing all the things 1384 00:57:21,980 --> 00:57:20,099 that we know are the right things to do 1385 00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:21,990 in order to ensure successful missions 1386 00:57:28,700 --> 00:57:26,640 after we launch next please oh I should 1387 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:28,710 say that another thing that I get to do 1388 00:57:33,140 --> 00:57:31,290 is briefings like this the day before 1389 00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:33,150 launch so that the members of the 1390 00:57:37,099 --> 00:57:35,609 project team can actually remain focused 1391 00:57:39,650 --> 00:57:37,109 on the job that they have ahead of them 1392 00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:39,660 and make sure that they're well rested 1393 00:57:45,859 --> 00:57:41,520 and ready for launch tomorrow morning at 1394 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:45,869 bright and early at 4:07 so what's easy 1395 00:57:48,770 --> 00:57:47,730 about the two spacecraft mission there 1396 00:57:50,599 --> 00:57:48,780 are some things that are easy about it 1397 00:57:53,150 --> 00:57:50,609 there's some things that are not so easy 1398 00:57:55,069 --> 00:57:53,160 about it one thing is is that both of 1399 00:57:57,319 --> 00:57:55,079 the spacecraft are nearly identical so 1400 00:58:00,920 --> 00:57:57,329 we just kind of build two copies of most 1401 00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:00,930 everything that we make we take an 1402 00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:02,640 approach with with this mission we have 1403 00:58:04,859 --> 00:58:04,079 taken approach with this mission as we 1404 00:58:08,670 --> 00:58:04,869 did on stereo 1405 00:58:10,620 --> 00:58:08,680 to keep the design fairly simple and I 1406 00:58:13,799 --> 00:58:10,630 should have put the word relatively 1407 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:13,809 simple in there because I learned in the 1408 00:58:18,930 --> 00:58:16,210 course of my career that there really is 1409 00:58:22,049 --> 00:58:18,940 nothing simple or easy about any of this 1410 00:58:24,059 --> 00:58:22,059 work it the complexity even when you 1411 00:58:26,130 --> 00:58:24,069 take a simple approach it to me still 1412 00:58:27,539 --> 00:58:26,140 boggles my mind and I regard it very 1413 00:58:30,299 --> 00:58:27,549 often as nothing less than a minor 1414 00:58:31,829 --> 00:58:30,309 miracle that we're able to do these 1415 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:31,839 things and get the science that we get 1416 00:58:36,749 --> 00:58:35,170 back from them keeping them simple also 1417 00:58:38,970 --> 00:58:36,759 makes them easier to test and operate 1418 00:58:40,529 --> 00:58:38,980 which is an advantage it gives you some 1419 00:58:42,599 --> 00:58:40,539 flexibility during the integration and 1420 00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:42,609 test process sometimes if a problem 1421 00:58:46,589 --> 00:58:44,559 crops up on one spacecraft where you can 1422 00:58:49,349 --> 00:58:46,599 sort of put that one aside get a team to 1423 00:58:51,089 --> 00:58:49,359 focus on solving that problem while the 1424 00:58:52,759 --> 00:58:51,099 integration and testing proceeds with 1425 00:58:55,519 --> 00:58:52,769 the processing of the second spacecraft 1426 00:58:57,809 --> 00:58:55,529 and some of the tests you run 1427 00:59:00,269 --> 00:58:57,819 concurrently on both spacecraft there's 1428 00:59:02,279 --> 00:59:00,279 a discipline that we all follow in this 1429 00:59:04,739 --> 00:59:02,289 community that we call test as you fly 1430 00:59:08,670 --> 00:59:04,749 which is part of the methodology again 1431 00:59:10,289 --> 00:59:08,680 to ensure a successful mission so we do 1432 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:10,299 things like when we vibrate the 1433 00:59:14,039 --> 00:59:12,130 spacecraft we've we've I break them the 1434 00:59:15,450 --> 00:59:14,049 way that they will be stacked in the 1435 00:59:18,029 --> 00:59:15,460 launch vehicle one on top of the other 1436 00:59:20,489 --> 00:59:18,039 we also want to our acoustic tests like 1437 00:59:22,049 --> 00:59:20,499 that one spacecraft at a time other 1438 00:59:23,579 --> 00:59:22,059 tests like thermal vacuum we have to 1439 00:59:25,229 --> 00:59:23,589 separate the spacecraft and test those 1440 00:59:28,049 --> 00:59:25,239 separately because they don't fly 1441 00:59:29,279 --> 00:59:28,059 together at least they better not fly 1442 00:59:33,539 --> 00:59:29,289 together after they've been released 1443 00:59:35,789 --> 00:59:33,549 from the launch vehicle so those are 1444 00:59:38,359 --> 00:59:35,799 some of the advantages to do in to 1445 00:59:41,309 --> 00:59:38,369 spacecraft mission next slide please 1446 00:59:43,470 --> 00:59:41,319 some of the things that are not quite so 1447 00:59:45,539 --> 00:59:43,480 easy about a two spacecraft mission well 1448 00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:45,549 I said earlier that one of the easy 1449 00:59:49,229 --> 00:59:46,960 things is that both spacecraft are 1450 00:59:51,569 --> 00:59:49,239 nearly identical one of the not so easy 1451 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:51,579 things is that they are not exactly 1452 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:54,730 identical now this is not necessarily a 1453 00:59:57,930 --> 00:59:56,650 hard thing to do but there are some 1454 00:59:59,549 --> 00:59:57,940 differences between the two spacecraft 1455 01:00:01,440 --> 00:59:59,559 and you just have to keep track of them 1456 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:01,450 as you go through the development for 1457 01:00:04,140 --> 01:00:02,650 instance you know that the two 1458 01:00:05,940 --> 01:00:04,150 spacecraft made to each other so the 1459 01:00:07,289 --> 01:00:05,950 mating Hardware on one spacecraft is a 1460 01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:07,299 little bit different than the the mating 1461 01:00:11,819 --> 01:00:10,089 hardware on another the spacecraft talk 1462 01:00:13,259 --> 01:00:11,829 on different frequencies so you have to 1463 01:00:14,670 --> 01:00:13,269 make sure that the right radios go on 1464 01:00:17,029 --> 01:00:14,680 the right spacecraft you don't mix those 1465 01:00:19,249 --> 01:00:17,039 up and some of the 1466 01:00:21,079 --> 01:00:19,259 signals from the launch vehicle while 1467 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:21,089 you're doing ground processing them it's 1468 01:00:24,289 --> 01:00:22,890 called the umbilical harness from the 1469 01:00:25,729 --> 01:00:24,299 launch vehicle those signals are carried 1470 01:00:26,779 --> 01:00:25,739 up from one spacecraft to another so 1471 01:00:29,689 --> 01:00:26,789 it's a little bit different seeing them 1472 01:00:31,519 --> 01:00:29,699 in the harness again not a hard problem 1473 01:00:32,569 --> 01:00:31,529 just something that you you have to pay 1474 01:00:35,479 --> 01:00:32,579 attention to while you're doing the 1475 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:35,489 integration and test process operating 1476 01:00:40,339 --> 01:00:37,650 two spacecraft requires generally a 1477 01:00:42,890 --> 01:00:40,349 larger operations team in the Mission 1478 01:00:45,259 --> 01:00:42,900 Operations Center a lot of the 1479 01:00:46,909 --> 01:00:45,269 procedures that you use are identical 1480 01:00:49,489 --> 01:00:46,919 between the two of them but you still 1481 01:00:51,439 --> 01:00:49,499 have to have enough people to be able to 1482 01:00:54,829 --> 01:00:51,449 handle the operations for both and 1483 01:00:56,509 --> 01:00:54,839 particularly if again god forbid there's 1484 01:00:58,849 --> 01:00:56,519 an anomaly on one spacecraft that needs 1485 01:01:01,159 --> 01:00:58,859 resolution that you've got the manpower 1486 01:01:02,209 --> 01:01:01,169 that you need to address that one while 1487 01:01:05,029 --> 01:01:02,219 you continue to operate the other 1488 01:01:07,939 --> 01:01:05,039 spacecraft also if you run into a 1489 01:01:11,209 --> 01:01:07,949 problem late in the game that happens to 1490 01:01:12,559 --> 01:01:11,219 be a design problem that you for 1491 01:01:14,209 --> 01:01:12,569 whatever reason didn't uncover earlier 1492 01:01:16,219 --> 01:01:14,219 on the one spacecraft well that can mean 1493 01:01:19,059 --> 01:01:16,229 that both spacecraft are affected and 1494 01:01:22,579 --> 01:01:19,069 you've got to take units off perhaps and 1495 01:01:24,859 --> 01:01:22,589 effect modifications to both of them and 1496 01:01:26,479 --> 01:01:24,869 then get them both on the spacecraft and 1497 01:01:28,339 --> 01:01:26,489 I've already talked about the testing 1498 01:01:30,140 --> 01:01:28,349 then the tests that you can't run 1499 01:01:32,809 --> 01:01:30,150 simultaneously that you have to break 1500 01:01:34,819 --> 01:01:32,819 apart and then have to back to thermal 1501 01:01:37,249 --> 01:01:34,829 vacuum chambers say to run through run 1502 01:01:39,649 --> 01:01:37,259 those tests so there are some some 1503 01:01:42,159 --> 01:01:39,659 pluses and minuses in doing this next 1504 01:01:49,039 --> 01:01:45,469 this depicts the rbsp spacecraft and its 1505 01:01:51,949 --> 01:01:49,049 flight configuration both spacecraft 1506 01:01:56,449 --> 01:01:51,959 combined are just short of 2,900 pounds 1507 01:01:58,130 --> 01:01:56,459 and mate and wait wait the average power 1508 01:01:59,299 --> 01:01:58,140 generation on each spacecraft is about 1509 01:02:02,449 --> 01:01:59,309 350 watts 1510 01:02:03,829 --> 01:02:02,459 they are spin stabilized all the time 1511 01:02:06,499 --> 01:02:03,839 they're in orbit they're spinning at a 1512 01:02:08,479 --> 01:02:06,509 rate of about five rpm and they 1513 01:02:10,189 --> 01:02:08,489 basically point the spin axis of the 1514 01:02:13,009 --> 01:02:10,199 spacecraft towards the Sun which keeps 1515 01:02:16,059 --> 01:02:13,019 the Sun on the solar panels and keeps us 1516 01:02:18,979 --> 01:02:16,069 at adequate power generation the 1517 01:02:21,109 --> 01:02:18,989 requirement for the mission life was two 1518 01:02:22,459 --> 01:02:21,119 years but we expect to get be able to 1519 01:02:26,599 --> 01:02:22,469 get four years of operation out of the 1520 01:02:29,149 --> 01:02:26,609 spacecraft at a minimum most of the 1521 01:02:30,289 --> 01:02:29,159 instruments are pointed out in this 1522 01:02:32,449 --> 01:02:30,299 diagram 1523 01:02:33,799 --> 01:02:32,459 I apologize for all the acronyms if we 1524 01:02:35,029 --> 01:02:33,809 spelled out the name of each one of 1525 01:02:37,539 --> 01:02:35,039 these investigations that wouldn't fit 1526 01:02:40,849 --> 01:02:37,549 on the slide but essentially there are 1527 01:02:43,279 --> 01:02:40,859 experiments that are wave experiment 1528 01:02:45,229 --> 01:02:43,289 oriented electromagnetic wave electric 1529 01:02:47,150 --> 01:02:45,239 fields and magnetic fields and that's 1530 01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:47,160 what all the booms and antennas and 1531 01:02:52,009 --> 01:02:49,920 sensors like that or for on the bottom 1532 01:02:55,069 --> 01:02:52,019 of the spacecraft are most of the 1533 01:02:56,809 --> 01:02:55,079 particle detecting instruments and you 1534 01:02:59,390 --> 01:02:56,819 can see those colored cones at the 1535 01:03:01,339 --> 01:02:59,400 bottom of the spacecraft those really 1536 01:03:03,199 --> 01:03:01,349 aren't physical parts of the instruments 1537 01:03:05,779 --> 01:03:03,209 themselves but rather they depict that 1538 01:03:08,299 --> 01:03:05,789 depicts the field of view of each one of 1539 01:03:11,299 --> 01:03:08,309 the instruments and so we that's always 1540 01:03:12,890 --> 01:03:11,309 a very useful thing for us to put the 1541 01:03:14,479 --> 01:03:12,900 visualization in there because we have 1542 01:03:15,949 --> 01:03:14,489 to ensure that there isn't aren't any 1543 01:03:17,989 --> 01:03:15,959 obstructions or interferences between 1544 01:03:21,519 --> 01:03:17,999 the instruments on the spacecraft in the 1545 01:03:24,529 --> 01:03:21,529 fields of view next please 1546 01:03:26,929 --> 01:03:24,539 okay I've just got a few pictures of the 1547 01:03:28,429 --> 01:03:26,939 the development of the spacecraft the 1548 01:03:32,299 --> 01:03:28,439 environmental testing again this is the 1549 01:03:35,989 --> 01:03:32,309 test as you fly approach that we take to 1550 01:03:37,699 --> 01:03:35,999 qualifying spacecraft we did something a 1551 01:03:40,069 --> 01:03:37,709 little bit different for us with the 1552 01:03:41,749 --> 01:03:40,079 rbsp spacecraft in testing the 1553 01:03:43,219 --> 01:03:41,759 spacecraft of the acoustics environment 1554 01:03:45,499 --> 01:03:43,229 that's generated by the launch vehicle 1555 01:03:47,689 --> 01:03:45,509 and that we don't have an acoustics 1556 01:03:50,179 --> 01:03:47,699 facility facility a dedicated acoustics 1557 01:03:52,759 --> 01:03:50,189 facility at the laboratory and we didn't 1558 01:03:54,259 --> 01:03:52,769 want to take the expense to go and use 1559 01:03:56,269 --> 01:03:54,269 Goddard's facility which we've done in 1560 01:03:58,339 --> 01:03:56,279 the past because we didn't need any 1561 01:04:01,160 --> 01:03:58,349 other of Goddard's facilities to test 1562 01:04:05,089 --> 01:04:01,170 the spacecraft so instead we brought in 1563 01:04:07,549 --> 01:04:05,099 a company whose main business is doing 1564 01:04:10,089 --> 01:04:07,559 the sound engineering for rock concerts 1565 01:04:12,529 --> 01:04:10,099 and things like that and you can see the 1566 01:04:15,199 --> 01:04:12,539 stack of speakers that they set up with 1567 01:04:17,179 --> 01:04:15,209 a spacecraft in the middle they were 1568 01:04:19,130 --> 01:04:17,189 actually very excited to have this type 1569 01:04:21,890 --> 01:04:19,140 of work - it's a little bit different 1570 01:04:23,449 --> 01:04:21,900 for them and they enjoyed coming in and 1571 01:04:24,799 --> 01:04:23,459 setting this this up for us so that we 1572 01:04:27,319 --> 01:04:24,809 could run our acoustics tests right 1573 01:04:29,419 --> 01:04:27,329 there at the laboratory the middle 1574 01:04:32,359 --> 01:04:29,429 picture shows you that the spacecraft 1575 01:04:34,959 --> 01:04:32,369 stack on the vibration table testing it 1576 01:04:37,130 --> 01:04:34,969 for the launch vibration environment and 1577 01:04:40,189 --> 01:04:37,140 that smaller picture on the right 1578 01:04:42,229 --> 01:04:40,199 depicts both spacecraft getting ready to 1579 01:04:43,460 --> 01:04:42,239 go to be sealed up into the thermal 1580 01:04:47,420 --> 01:04:43,470 vacuum chambers at the lab 1581 01:04:49,730 --> 01:04:47,430 to do the thermal vacuum testing quickly 1582 01:04:51,349 --> 01:04:49,740 a week colloquially we call this shake 1583 01:04:54,890 --> 01:04:51,359 and bake and of the vibration followed 1584 01:04:57,470 --> 01:04:54,900 by the film of vacuum testing and next 1585 01:05:00,589 --> 01:04:57,480 slide please some some more testing of 1586 01:05:02,900 --> 01:05:00,599 the spacecraft the the spin balance test 1587 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:02,910 for the spacecraft we actually balance 1588 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:05,010 the spacecraft the same way the tires on 1589 01:05:09,609 --> 01:05:07,170 your car are balanced and even though 1590 01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:09,619 the spacecraft only spin at five rpm in 1591 01:05:16,220 --> 01:05:13,920 flight we we spin them up at about 85 1592 01:05:17,839 --> 01:05:16,230 rpm in order to determine where we need 1593 01:05:20,420 --> 01:05:17,849 to place balanced masses in order to 1594 01:05:22,730 --> 01:05:20,430 perfectly balance the spacecraft for 1595 01:05:24,740 --> 01:05:22,740 flight and that other picture there 1596 01:05:26,540 --> 01:05:24,750 should gives you sort of a hard view to 1597 01:05:29,270 --> 01:05:26,550 see but it's the solar array deployment 1598 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:29,280 testing which we have to take special 1599 01:05:32,990 --> 01:05:31,410 measures in order to test adequately on 1600 01:05:34,820 --> 01:05:33,000 the ground because on the ground of 1601 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:34,830 course we have to deal with gravity that 1602 01:05:38,870 --> 01:05:36,930 we don't deal with in space but we do 1603 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:38,880 this you know as a matter of course to 1604 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:40,650 ensure the volume the mechanisms and 1605 01:05:44,140 --> 01:05:43,170 deployables on the spacecraft work next 1606 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:44,150 please 1607 01:05:51,230 --> 01:05:47,210 as I said we operate the spacecraft from 1608 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:51,240 our campus in Laurel Maryland we have a 1609 01:05:55,310 --> 01:05:52,770 Mission Operations Center that's 1610 01:05:58,700 --> 01:05:55,320 configured to handle the operations of 1611 01:06:00,320 --> 01:05:58,710 two spacecraft at once it's kind of hard 1612 01:06:02,540 --> 01:06:00,330 to see in that picture you can see some 1613 01:06:05,060 --> 01:06:02,550 large flat paneled screens on one side 1614 01:06:07,579 --> 01:06:05,070 of the room and if you look very closely 1615 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:07,589 you can see the same display the same 1616 01:06:11,900 --> 01:06:09,450 flat panel just displays on the other 1617 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:11,910 side of the room the room is is 1618 01:06:17,420 --> 01:06:14,250 configured for two teams of operators 1619 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:17,430 two teams of engineers to support all 1620 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:20,010 the the operations being able to view 1621 01:06:27,890 --> 01:06:21,690 all the telemetry from their subsystems 1622 01:06:31,250 --> 01:06:27,900 next please and this is the 18 meter or 1623 01:06:33,260 --> 01:06:31,260 60-foot dish antenna on our facility at 1624 01:06:35,020 --> 01:06:33,270 APL which is the prime ground station 1625 01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:35,030 for communications with the spacecraft 1626 01:06:40,490 --> 01:06:37,680 we also make use of some commercial 1627 01:06:42,140 --> 01:06:40,500 backup stations around the world in the 1628 01:06:45,020 --> 01:06:42,150 event that we need to bring any other 1629 01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:45,030 assets online but this is the main 1630 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:48,290 ground station for the probe mission 1631 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:51,810 next picture this is a picture from this 1632 01:06:56,620 --> 01:06:52,970 morning 1633 01:06:58,730 --> 01:06:56,630 it's it's really gratifying and exciting 1634 01:07:00,380 --> 01:06:58,740 after you know having worked on 1635 01:07:02,690 --> 01:07:00,390 something like this for five years to 1636 01:07:04,460 --> 01:07:02,700 see it sitting on top of the rocket 1637 01:07:06,020 --> 01:07:04,470 getting ready for launch it's a 1638 01:07:06,590 --> 01:07:06,030 beautiful picture we never get tired of 1639 01:07:12,220 --> 01:07:06,600 looking at it 1640 01:07:17,170 --> 01:07:12,230 and finally just a few more pictures of 1641 01:07:19,850 --> 01:07:17,180 the spacecraft at various stages of 1642 01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:19,860 processing down here at the Cape being 1643 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:22,290 encapsulated in the fairing and we're 1644 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:23,850 looking forward to a successful launch 1645 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:26,490 tomorrow morning if there are any 1646 01:07:37,340 --> 01:07:35,300 yeah 1647 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:37,350 so when you do the spin test do you have 1648 01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:39,210 to put LED lights in to balance the 1649 01:07:45,230 --> 01:07:42,240 satellites they're not necessarily led 1650 01:07:47,810 --> 01:07:45,240 but but that is the idea just as I said 1651 01:07:50,510 --> 01:07:47,820 just like your tires on your car are 1652 01:07:53,630 --> 01:07:50,520 balanced and we do a lot of analysis 1653 01:07:55,250 --> 01:07:53,640 beforehand to understand how unbalanced 1654 01:07:56,810 --> 01:07:55,260 we think the spacecraft will be before 1655 01:07:58,970 --> 01:07:56,820 we have to put the balanced mass on 1656 01:08:01,550 --> 01:07:58,980 there and we calculate how much mass we 1657 01:08:03,740 --> 01:08:01,560 think we'll need and make provisions for 1658 01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:03,750 where that mass will be attached to the 1659 01:08:12,359 --> 01:08:05,010 spacecraft in order to achieve the 1660 01:08:16,410 --> 01:08:14,730 are there any new significant design 1661 01:08:18,990 --> 01:08:16,420 changes as far as the structure of the 1662 01:08:20,309 --> 01:08:19,000 spacecraft or any other improvements as 1663 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:20,319 opposed to the some of the previous 1664 01:08:24,629 --> 01:08:21,850 missions like stereo that you're 1665 01:08:27,059 --> 01:08:24,639 implementing well the answer is yes and 1666 01:08:29,149 --> 01:08:27,069 that was those modifications and changes 1667 01:08:31,890 --> 01:08:29,159 were largely driven by the environment 1668 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:31,900 into which we were flying so as Nicky 1669 01:08:36,539 --> 01:08:34,449 said the electronics boxes have walls 1670 01:08:37,860 --> 01:08:36,549 they're about 3/8 of an inch thick or 1671 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:37,870 about the thickness of a slice of bread 1672 01:08:43,410 --> 01:08:40,449 in order to reduce the radiation 1673 01:08:45,780 --> 01:08:43,420 environment at the electronic piece part 1674 01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:45,790 level we also went to great lengths to 1675 01:08:51,570 --> 01:08:48,250 shield the harness so that it wouldn't 1676 01:08:53,550 --> 01:08:51,580 be damaged by the deposition of charges 1677 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:53,560 into the insulators of the harness the 1678 01:08:57,510 --> 01:08:55,810 installation of the wire that can cause 1679 01:09:00,840 --> 01:08:57,520 charge to build up and can cause 1680 01:09:02,789 --> 01:09:00,850 discharges that are both damaging to the 1681 01:09:04,740 --> 01:09:02,799 to the spacecraft but they also create 1682 01:09:05,789 --> 01:09:04,750 noise and interference it interferes 1683 01:09:08,700 --> 01:09:05,799 with the measurements that we're trying 1684 01:09:11,789 --> 01:09:08,710 to make the solar panels themselves had 1685 01:09:13,890 --> 01:09:11,799 some special techniques applied to 1686 01:09:16,860 --> 01:09:13,900 minimize any build-up of charge and 1687 01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:16,870 resulting discharge in the panel's 1688 01:09:22,140 --> 01:09:19,120 themselves through the use of conductive 1689 01:09:23,910 --> 01:09:22,150 grouting material in the build up of the 1690 01:09:25,349 --> 01:09:23,920 solar panels so yeah there were a number 1691 01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:25,359 of things that we had to do that were 1692 01:09:30,059 --> 01:09:26,560 basically driven by the environment 1693 01:09:31,919 --> 01:09:30,069 individual flying for this mission it 1694 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:31,929 was it fees or could have been feasible 1695 01:09:36,660 --> 01:09:33,850 to put a camera on there to watch what's 1696 01:09:39,149 --> 01:09:36,670 going on radiation belts 1697 01:09:40,979 --> 01:09:39,159 it would have been feasible perhaps but 1698 01:09:42,300 --> 01:09:40,989 I don't know that that was would be very 1699 01:09:44,249 --> 01:09:42,310 interesting to the scientists 1700 01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:44,259 particularly because of where we're 1701 01:09:48,269 --> 01:09:45,520 flying in the type of science we're 1702 01:09:50,039 --> 01:09:48,279 doing you you you have seen images of 1703 01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:50,049 Aurora that are taken by certain 1704 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:52,449 spacecraft Aurora or feature that 1705 01:09:55,950 --> 01:09:54,489 features that occur mostly over the 1706 01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:55,960 poles and we're not a polar orbiting 1707 01:10:00,870 --> 01:09:58,090 spacecraft for one thing so it really 1708 01:10:02,129 --> 01:10:00,880 wasn't any value added in trying to put 1709 01:10:06,390 --> 01:10:02,139 any type of imager whether it was 1710 01:10:13,679 --> 01:10:06,400 visible or UV or whatever um did I get 1711 01:10:17,129 --> 01:10:15,870 so most cameras would actually switch 1712 01:10:18,899 --> 01:10:17,139 off when they go through the belts 1713 01:10:20,370 --> 01:10:18,909 you've got so much radiation so if you 1714 01:10:23,129 --> 01:10:20,380 if you remember when you see us big 1715 01:10:25,500 --> 01:10:23,139 flare that hits sto or Soho and you just 1716 01:10:27,239 --> 01:10:25,510 see that camera go if you actually look 1717 01:10:29,399 --> 01:10:27,249 at some of the rural cameras less than 1718 01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:29,409 an hour after that they are completely 1719 01:10:33,540 --> 01:10:31,449 snowed out also so you know you're 1720 01:10:34,919 --> 01:10:33,550 traveling and living in that the one 1721 01:10:36,899 --> 01:10:34,929 thing that would would have been a nice 1722 01:10:38,850 --> 01:10:36,909 addition would have been an ene imager 1723 01:10:41,100 --> 01:10:38,860 so if you're familiar with the image 1724 01:10:43,859 --> 01:10:41,110 spacecraft that flew and it did this 1725 01:10:46,199 --> 01:10:43,869 energetic neutral atom imaging it's a 1726 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:46,209 completely different kind of imager and 1727 01:10:49,739 --> 01:10:47,650 that would have been really looking at 1728 01:10:51,779 --> 01:10:49,749 the ring current that might have been a 1729 01:10:53,459 --> 01:10:51,789 nice addition it wouldn't be great on 1730 01:10:55,049 --> 01:10:53,469 the platform the particular orbit we 1731 01:10:56,429 --> 01:10:55,059 have you'd be better at a geosynchronous 1732 01:10:59,399 --> 01:10:56,439 or something where you really you know 1733 01:11:00,719 --> 01:10:59,409 or a or a polar orbit that image had to 1734 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:00,729 do a better job at that but that that 1735 01:11:05,189 --> 01:11:02,650 would have been a nice addition but we 1736 01:11:07,949 --> 01:11:05,199 do have balloons so we have a really 1737 01:11:09,449 --> 01:11:07,959 nice barrel is the name of it it's a 1738 01:11:10,919 --> 01:11:09,459 collaborating balloon mission and I 1739 01:11:14,969 --> 01:11:10,929 think it's about 20 balloons that are 1740 01:11:16,469 --> 01:11:14,979 launched from Antarctic and they they go 1741 01:11:18,719 --> 01:11:16,479 up and they've got that nice yes thank 1742 01:11:21,839 --> 01:11:18,729 you yes January of 13 which is why we're 1743 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:21,849 so dying to get up there and and they 1744 01:11:25,709 --> 01:11:24,010 have a nice sort of fairly stable wind 1745 01:11:27,239 --> 01:11:25,719 pattern so they will go up and they're 1746 01:11:29,459 --> 01:11:27,249 basically looking at the other end of 1747 01:11:31,469 --> 01:11:29,469 the radiation belt so we're looking at 1748 01:11:33,089 --> 01:11:31,479 everything why it's really enhancing and 1749 01:11:35,879 --> 01:11:33,099 how the particle populations are 1750 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:35,889 changing and barrel is sitting there 1751 01:11:39,029 --> 01:11:37,570 looking at the particles precipitating 1752 01:11:40,979 --> 01:11:39,039 down so they're really looking at the 1753 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:40,989 losses for us so it's a really nice 1754 01:11:52,130 --> 01:11:49,370 I mean some how or or would the design 1755 01:11:54,650 --> 01:11:52,140 of the spacecraft have changed if if the 1756 01:11:58,940 --> 01:11:54,660 the rotation of it were to have been say 1757 01:12:02,050 --> 01:11:58,950 you know 15 rpm or 20 during a normal 1758 01:12:06,010 --> 01:12:02,060 operational state or even non rotational 1759 01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:06,020 a faster spin rate would have had 1760 01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:08,370 implications for the instruments and how 1761 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:11,250 they had collect their data it also 1762 01:12:14,510 --> 01:12:12,810 makes a difference the amount of fuel 1763 01:12:16,190 --> 01:12:14,520 that we would need on board in order to 1764 01:12:17,870 --> 01:12:16,200 maintain a spin rate of that size and 1765 01:12:20,540 --> 01:12:17,880 then how much fuel that would take when 1766 01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:20,550 we have to maneuver the spacecraft to 1767 01:12:25,610 --> 01:12:22,170 keep the spin axis pointed more or less 1768 01:12:29,900 --> 01:12:25,620 at the Sun as far as the engineering 1769 01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:29,910 subsystems not not a lot of impact there 1770 01:12:36,290 --> 01:12:33,210 necessarily but this the spin stabilized 1771 01:12:38,090 --> 01:12:36,300 mode of course is a much easier mode 1772 01:12:39,860 --> 01:12:38,100 from a stability point of view and the 1773 01:12:42,620 --> 01:12:39,870 guidance and control aspects of it and 1774 01:12:44,870 --> 01:12:42,630 whether you're spinning at 5 rpm or 10 1775 01:12:46,130 --> 01:12:44,880 or 15 rpm is is there's not a lot of 1776 01:12:47,810 --> 01:12:46,140 difference there the main impact would 1777 01:12:53,450 --> 01:12:47,820 have been on the on the the instrument 1778 01:12:55,820 --> 01:12:53,460 designs so you're the chief engineer 1779 01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:55,830 which means you get pulled in on all the 1780 01:13:00,170 --> 01:12:57,810 really tough problems during the 1781 01:13:07,310 --> 01:13:00,180 spacecraft development what has you the 1782 01:13:08,900 --> 01:13:07,320 most worried I have to pause because 1783 01:13:11,979 --> 01:13:08,910 that's my boss who asked who asked the 1784 01:13:18,559 --> 01:13:15,919 you know I'll be quite honest with you I 1785 01:13:21,199 --> 01:13:18,569 am NOT a huge fan of single string 1786 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:21,209 spacecraft and that in these spacecraft 1787 01:13:28,699 --> 01:13:25,050 arm as an engineer I like to guarantee 1788 01:13:31,369 --> 01:13:28,709 mission success by by having something 1789 01:13:33,619 --> 01:13:31,379 to fall back on on the spacecraft now it 1790 01:13:35,509 --> 01:13:33,629 is a fact of this business that we build 1791 01:13:36,469 --> 01:13:35,519 a lot of single string spacecraft and 1792 01:13:39,799 --> 01:13:36,479 over the years we have developed 1793 01:13:43,489 --> 01:13:39,809 methodologies for how we test these 1794 01:13:46,669 --> 01:13:43,499 things how we design them to ensure that 1795 01:13:48,369 --> 01:13:46,679 they work even in the face or even 1796 01:13:50,929 --> 01:13:48,379 recognizing that we are always 1797 01:13:53,719 --> 01:13:50,939 susceptible to stochastic failure to 1798 01:13:55,729 --> 01:13:53,729 random failures that somehow escape us 1799 01:13:58,939 --> 01:13:55,739 from all the testing that we've done on 1800 01:14:02,209 --> 01:13:58,949 the ground that's that's the thing that 1801 01:14:04,399 --> 01:14:02,219 I would probably worry about the most 1802 01:14:08,089 --> 01:14:04,409 but it's not something that I'm going to 1803 01:14:10,849 --> 01:14:08,099 lose a lot of sleep over because of our 1804 01:14:14,290 --> 01:14:10,859 history and experience in building 1805 01:14:16,279 --> 01:14:14,300 spacecraft like this Thank You Jonathan 1806 01:14:23,409 --> 01:14:16,289 thank you very much for your time today 1807 01:14:27,500 --> 01:14:26,329 next up here we have ali mendoza hill 1808 01:14:29,299 --> 01:14:27,510 she's with NASA's launch services 1809 01:14:36,079 --> 01:14:29,309 program and she's the mission manager 1810 01:14:36,609 --> 01:14:36,089 for this launch so thank you good 1811 01:14:39,379 --> 01:14:36,619 afternoon 1812 01:14:41,929 --> 01:14:39,389 speaking of acts to follow you just get 1813 01:14:44,089 --> 01:14:41,939 me know pretty pictures no presentations 1814 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:44,099 actually just a correction I am a 1815 01:14:48,049 --> 01:14:46,050 mission manager in our launch services 1816 01:14:52,359 --> 01:14:48,059 program but I'm not the mission manager 1817 01:14:56,239 --> 01:14:52,369 for our BSP I wish this is a really neat 1818 01:14:58,909 --> 01:14:56,249 satellite both of them both and the 1819 01:15:00,739 --> 01:14:58,919 mission manager for our BSP is Rex 1820 01:15:02,689 --> 01:15:00,749 engelhardt and you were supposed to meet 1821 01:15:04,549 --> 01:15:02,699 him at the tour yesterday but he got 1822 01:15:06,709 --> 01:15:04,559 pulled away and wasn't able to meet you 1823 01:15:10,790 --> 01:15:06,719 but if not he was a very interesting 1824 01:15:11,629 --> 01:15:10,800 character but I am work for launch 1825 01:15:14,270 --> 01:15:11,639 services program 1826 01:15:16,639 --> 01:15:14,280 LSP for short so when I say LSP you'll 1827 01:15:19,579 --> 01:15:16,649 know what I'm talking about and LSP is 1828 01:15:21,649 --> 01:15:19,589 the program here at Kennedy and we are 1829 01:15:23,839 --> 01:15:21,659 responsible for getting the launch the 1830 01:15:24,050 --> 01:15:23,849 vehicles the launch vehicles for you for 1831 01:15:28,310 --> 01:15:24,060 this 1832 01:15:31,910 --> 01:15:28,320 crafts make it on-orbit so here at LSB 1833 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:31,920 we've got engineers technicians and a 1834 01:15:36,230 --> 01:15:34,530 lot of support personnel what we call 1835 01:15:39,500 --> 01:15:36,240 the rocket scientists on the launch 1836 01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:39,510 vehicle side not on the brilliant 1837 01:15:44,930 --> 01:15:43,290 scientists like so we do where we are 1838 01:15:46,940 --> 01:15:44,940 responsible for selecting a launch 1839 01:15:50,180 --> 01:15:46,950 vehicle and that process can start years 1840 01:15:52,130 --> 01:15:50,190 before the launch is ready to go what we 1841 01:15:54,740 --> 01:15:52,140 do is we go out and procure we take all 1842 01:15:57,020 --> 01:15:54,750 the spacecraft requirements and we send 1843 01:15:58,550 --> 01:15:57,030 it out to industry and said you know 1844 01:16:00,620 --> 01:15:58,560 we'll ask them who wants to bid on this 1845 01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:00,630 launch vehicle you know to launch this 1846 01:16:07,790 --> 01:16:05,280 up the satellite it'll come back and 1847 01:16:09,890 --> 01:16:07,800 we'll it's a rigorous process and we'll 1848 01:16:11,270 --> 01:16:09,900 analyze all the different proposals that 1849 01:16:12,830 --> 01:16:11,280 come in and make sure what is the best 1850 01:16:16,430 --> 01:16:12,840 and most effective right for the 1851 01:16:18,890 --> 01:16:16,440 satellite at times it's very close and 1852 01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:18,900 it's just those little nuances that that 1853 01:16:24,100 --> 01:16:21,090 will have a select one vehicle over 1854 01:16:26,150 --> 01:16:24,110 another and in reality that the one that 1855 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:26,160 that wins is the one that can best 1856 01:16:29,930 --> 01:16:28,050 protect the spacecraft and get it into 1857 01:16:31,790 --> 01:16:29,940 the right orbit and / mission success in 1858 01:16:37,250 --> 01:16:31,800 the end so we can get the science that 1859 01:16:39,620 --> 01:16:37,260 would help benefit us on earth rocket 1860 01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:39,630 this one it's an Atlas 5 it's a vehicle 1861 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:41,970 if you've seen the configuration it's a 1862 01:16:47,210 --> 01:16:44,610 401 that all that means it's a four 1863 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:47,220 meter fairing it has no strap-ons around 1864 01:16:51,410 --> 01:16:49,290 it that's what the zero is and the one 1865 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:51,420 is that the Centaur the upper stage has 1866 01:16:54,860 --> 01:16:53,610 only one engine I'm so that kind of 1867 01:16:58,940 --> 01:16:54,870 tells you the nomenclature when you see 1868 01:17:01,430 --> 01:16:58,950 that out there we appear at LSP and it 1869 01:17:03,530 --> 01:17:01,440 depending on the satellite we can select 1870 01:17:05,060 --> 01:17:03,540 anything from small vehicles such as a 1871 01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:05,070 Pegasus that's air launched from an 1872 01:17:12,980 --> 01:17:09,330 l-1011 a delta ii from United Launch 1873 01:17:18,740 --> 01:17:12,990 Alliance or the big you know big ones 1874 01:17:22,550 --> 01:17:18,750 like Atlas five so I believe Nikki was 1875 01:17:25,310 --> 01:17:22,560 talking about the orbit that it's that 1876 01:17:27,050 --> 01:17:25,320 rbsp is going to be in a pudgy and 1877 01:17:29,540 --> 01:17:27,060 perigee you're talking about a 1878 01:17:31,820 --> 01:17:29,550 difference of three hundred miles on one 1879 01:17:34,250 --> 01:17:31,830 end and nineteen thousand miles on the 1880 01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:34,260 other if you put that into reference if 1881 01:17:37,020 --> 01:17:35,730 you would drive from the North Pole to 1882 01:17:38,700 --> 01:17:37,030 the South Pole 1883 01:17:41,250 --> 01:17:38,710 around and go halfway back that's 1884 01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:41,260 nineteen thousand miles more or less so 1885 01:17:44,970 --> 01:17:43,450 you can kind of understand the orbit 1886 01:17:46,890 --> 01:17:44,980 that the lightness five is going to in 1887 01:17:50,820 --> 01:17:46,900 the Centaur will place the satellites 1888 01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:50,830 and the probes let's see what else can I 1889 01:17:56,550 --> 01:17:54,850 tell you about we do launch out of not 1890 01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:56,560 just from here Kennedy Space Center will 1891 01:18:00,540 --> 01:17:58,090 have launch vehicles that launch at 1892 01:18:02,790 --> 01:18:00,550 different places around the around the 1893 01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:02,800 earth we have launched from Kodiak will 1894 01:18:07,590 --> 01:18:05,170 launch from Vandenberg which is out in 1895 01:18:11,070 --> 01:18:07,600 California we have Kwajalein which is 1896 01:18:12,900 --> 01:18:11,080 out in the Marshall Islands and a couple 1897 01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:12,910 other places and pretty much the 1898 01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:15,370 inclination will determine where we 1899 01:18:19,650 --> 01:18:17,650 launch from I'm so like you're someone 1900 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:19,660 was asking about polar orbits you know 1901 01:18:23,310 --> 01:18:20,770 those we would launch out of the 1902 01:18:25,500 --> 01:18:23,320 Vandenburg facility so it all depends on 1903 01:18:27,900 --> 01:18:25,510 the launch vehicle where they can go and 1904 01:18:32,430 --> 01:18:27,910 where the spacecraft needs to go where 1905 01:18:34,350 --> 01:18:32,440 the launch site will be well once we 1906 01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:34,360 select the launch vehicle and even 1907 01:18:37,770 --> 01:18:36,130 before that we do work closely with the 1908 01:18:40,530 --> 01:18:37,780 spacecraft to understand what their 1909 01:18:42,660 --> 01:18:40,540 requirements are as he was mentioning 1910 01:18:45,210 --> 01:18:42,670 the shake and bake process all that data 1911 01:18:46,620 --> 01:18:45,220 is fed to the launch vehicles so they 1912 01:18:49,530 --> 01:18:46,630 ensure that the launch vehicle doesn't 1913 01:18:51,420 --> 01:18:49,540 damage the spacecraft and in turn the 1914 01:18:53,940 --> 01:18:51,430 spacecraft doesn't do anything to damage 1915 01:18:57,330 --> 01:18:53,950 the launch vehicle or impact you know 1916 01:18:59,040 --> 01:18:57,340 it's its trajectory and its release of 1917 01:19:01,560 --> 01:18:59,050 the spacecraft so it's an iterative 1918 01:19:04,470 --> 01:19:01,570 process and it's very integrated so LSP 1919 01:19:06,090 --> 01:19:04,480 also manages that that aspect in between 1920 01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:06,100 the spacecraft and the launch vehicle 1921 01:19:10,230 --> 01:19:08,110 providers all the way from before 1922 01:19:13,530 --> 01:19:10,240 selection will go to different offers 1923 01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:13,540 and get different analyses done through 1924 01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:16,930 through launch and then once it's off 1925 01:19:20,730 --> 01:19:25,490 let's see 1926 01:19:31,310 --> 01:19:29,810 this is heard for us here it's pretty 1927 01:19:34,220 --> 01:19:31,320 much all Espino nutshell I wouldn't want 1928 01:19:35,450 --> 01:19:34,230 to bore you with all the details as far 1929 01:19:38,630 --> 01:19:35,460 as they asked me to tell you a little 1930 01:19:40,970 --> 01:19:38,640 bit about myself and how I got here 1931 01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:40,980 let's say I started in Ellis and here at 1932 01:19:46,130 --> 01:19:43,440 Kennedy Space Center in 2000 so I am an 1933 01:19:51,470 --> 01:19:46,140 engineer I went to various schools in 1934 01:19:54,310 --> 01:19:51,480 Florida not FSU so the U and FIU and 1935 01:19:58,010 --> 01:19:54,320 Florida Tech sorry three but not FSU 1936 01:19:59,870 --> 01:19:58,020 anyway so I have a bachelors in 1937 01:20:02,270 --> 01:19:59,880 industrial engineering and I've got a 1938 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:02,280 master's in Space Systems and I have a 1939 01:20:06,950 --> 01:20:04,290 partial master's that hasn't been 1940 01:20:08,930 --> 01:20:06,960 finished in mechanical but I stayed 1941 01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:08,940 start here at KSC in the industrial 1942 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:10,650 engineering group with shuttle and so I 1943 01:20:14,450 --> 01:20:12,090 worked shuttle until about a year ago 1944 01:20:16,730 --> 01:20:14,460 and I just transferred over to the 1945 01:20:19,550 --> 01:20:16,740 launch services program kind of a 1946 01:20:21,530 --> 01:20:19,560 different world but but not so much 1947 01:20:23,750 --> 01:20:21,540 we're still launching into space we're 1948 01:20:26,510 --> 01:20:23,760 just not launching humans but the 1949 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:26,520 science is incredible on on this side of 1950 01:20:29,930 --> 01:20:28,410 the house as well and one of the things 1951 01:20:30,830 --> 01:20:29,940 you go out and talk to the public and 1952 01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:30,840 they say Oh what are you doing at 1953 01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:32,130 Kennedy now that the shuttles gone 1954 01:20:36,620 --> 01:20:34,410 there's no that's it we are launching we 1955 01:20:39,380 --> 01:20:36,630 are making science we are improving life 1956 01:20:41,270 --> 01:20:39,390 here on earth there's so much more to do 1957 01:20:44,210 --> 01:20:41,280 than just launching humans and it's kind 1958 01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:44,220 of the science was kind of put under the 1959 01:20:47,660 --> 01:20:45,810 under the belt of shuttles so I think 1960 01:20:48,970 --> 01:20:47,670 you know we need to take the opportunity 1961 01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:48,980 to get the word out that there is 1962 01:20:53,210 --> 01:20:51,570 science going on it here at Kennedy and 1963 01:20:55,670 --> 01:20:53,220 all across NASA and all across the 1964 01:20:57,740 --> 01:20:55,680 center's APL JPL all the different 1965 01:21:03,650 --> 01:20:57,750 science centers that help universities 1966 01:21:05,810 --> 01:21:03,660 as well so that's pretty much all I have 1967 01:21:11,090 --> 01:21:05,820 I don't have any questions questions 1968 01:21:12,770 --> 01:21:11,100 anybody yeah my question I've been 1969 01:21:14,930 --> 01:21:12,780 asking everybody here is what do you 1970 01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:14,940 want us is NASA social participants to 1971 01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:16,890 communicate to the greater community in 1972 01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:19,530 our society about how important NASA is 1973 01:21:24,350 --> 01:21:22,170 and the science that's being done here 1974 01:21:26,210 --> 01:21:24,360 that you've just elaborated on and maybe 1975 01:21:29,090 --> 01:21:26,220 you can also talk about your experiences 1976 01:21:32,570 --> 01:21:29,100 as a woman in a man's world in this and 1977 01:21:34,460 --> 01:21:32,580 how and how people like yourself and you 1978 01:21:37,860 --> 01:21:34,470 know might Sally Ride and how that's an 1979 01:21:41,340 --> 01:21:37,870 inspiring young girls and in education 1980 01:21:43,740 --> 01:21:41,350 okay I guess part of touching of what I 1981 01:21:46,530 --> 01:21:43,750 was just mentioning on a lot of people 1982 01:21:48,030 --> 01:21:46,540 in the public will say NASA is all about 1983 01:21:49,500 --> 01:21:48,040 just launching a shuttle and getting 1984 01:21:51,660 --> 01:21:49,510 nice pretty pictures when we come back 1985 01:21:53,190 --> 01:21:51,670 we're launching rockets like Hubble 1986 01:21:57,570 --> 01:21:53,200 Space Telescope's and just getting 1987 01:22:00,540 --> 01:21:57,580 pretty pictures in in us in NASA and the 1988 01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:00,550 science community trying to get launch 1989 01:22:03,780 --> 01:22:02,290 these items and just get into space 1990 01:22:04,830 --> 01:22:03,790 we've developed a lot of science out 1991 01:22:08,130 --> 01:22:04,840 there 1992 01:22:11,100 --> 01:22:08,140 we've helped just just then like she was 1993 01:22:13,380 --> 01:22:11,110 a radiation technology I mean that helps 1994 01:22:14,940 --> 01:22:13,390 you know all that science gets fed back 1995 01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:14,950 to the community 1996 01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:17,650 it's MRI imaging it's cancer detection 1997 01:22:23,100 --> 01:22:20,050 research that's going on and a lot of 1998 01:22:25,470 --> 01:22:23,110 the basis is used off of all the science 1999 01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:25,480 that's developed at NASA trying to go 2000 01:22:29,370 --> 01:22:28,000 out to radiation belt trying to go to 2001 01:22:32,010 --> 01:22:29,380 different areas this science is all 2002 01:22:34,170 --> 01:22:32,020 given out to the public again and what 2003 01:22:35,730 --> 01:22:34,180 we call as NASA spin-offs so there's a 2004 01:22:38,460 --> 01:22:35,740 website with NASA spin-offs that you can 2005 01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:38,470 go out there and look at thousands of 2006 01:22:42,180 --> 01:22:39,850 items the middle I don't how many but 2007 01:22:44,910 --> 01:22:42,190 just everyday things like we mentioned 2008 01:22:47,490 --> 01:22:44,920 GPS is you know it's it's the things we 2009 01:22:50,130 --> 01:22:47,500 work on laptops you know there is some 2010 01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:50,140 technology behind that was developed as 2011 01:22:54,180 --> 01:22:52,210 early as the Apollo program and it just 2012 01:22:56,910 --> 01:22:54,190 continues to develop but no one ever 2013 01:22:58,770 --> 01:22:56,920 sees that um so it's it's what's behind 2014 01:23:01,200 --> 01:22:58,780 the scenes it's not just that we launch 2015 01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:01,210 a rocket and we just like to see the 2016 01:23:05,850 --> 01:23:02,650 fireball at the end of the rocket and 2017 01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:05,860 see it go you know hi there is there is 2018 01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:06,850 a lot of science and technology 2019 01:23:12,990 --> 01:23:09,520 development that happens in the process 2020 01:23:13,740 --> 01:23:13,000 of getting to space as far as a woman in 2021 01:23:16,650 --> 01:23:13,750 NASA 2022 01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:16,660 I guess being an engineer at that whole 2023 01:23:22,410 --> 01:23:20,410 I grew up with two brothers two older 2024 01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:22,420 brothers and they were always fixing 2025 01:23:25,350 --> 01:23:23,770 their cars and here was the annoying 2026 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:25,360 little sister asking what are you doing 2027 01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:27,850 why are you doing that so as a little 2028 01:23:30,690 --> 01:23:29,050 girl I was always interested in how 2029 01:23:32,940 --> 01:23:30,700 things worked and we didn't have you 2030 01:23:36,870 --> 01:23:32,950 know how stuff works online and we 2031 01:23:39,630 --> 01:23:36,880 didn't have you know dirty jobs on the 2032 01:23:40,890 --> 01:23:39,640 internet and cable you know so it you 2033 01:23:43,470 --> 01:23:40,900 just I found out but I asked some 2034 01:23:45,150 --> 01:23:43,480 questions and then moving on it so I was 2035 01:23:48,190 --> 01:23:45,160 always that annoying little girl growing 2036 01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:48,200 up through school and just I had 2037 01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:50,850 professors and teachers that just you 2038 01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:53,010 know helped along the way a lot of math 2039 01:23:57,500 --> 01:23:55,170 person math you know usually they said 2040 01:23:59,000 --> 01:23:57,510 girls don't worry about math you know go 2041 01:24:01,160 --> 01:23:59,010 go do something else and I really 2042 01:24:03,350 --> 01:24:01,170 enjoyed math and I had some wonderful 2043 01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:03,360 math teachers that just you know helped 2044 01:24:08,870 --> 01:24:05,610 me along the way women teachers as well 2045 01:24:12,650 --> 01:24:08,880 as male teachers and I think I played 2046 01:24:15,860 --> 01:24:12,660 sports a lot as well so I was a scholar 2047 01:24:17,420 --> 01:24:15,870 athlete in high school and I think being 2048 01:24:20,540 --> 01:24:17,430 in that environment also just gave you a 2049 01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:20,550 little bit more of a I get exposure and 2050 01:24:30,830 --> 01:24:29,360 assertiveness to just go out there and 2051 01:24:32,540 --> 01:24:30,840 ask and do whatever you want to do 2052 01:24:34,460 --> 01:24:32,550 regardless of whether you're supposed to 2053 01:24:35,570 --> 01:24:34,470 do something or not if you'd like math 2054 01:24:38,030 --> 01:24:35,580 go for it 2055 01:24:39,530 --> 01:24:38,040 it doesn't matter for a male female so 2056 01:24:42,740 --> 01:24:39,540 in Jinja nearing you are part of the 2057 01:24:44,090 --> 01:24:42,750 minority is women and engineering but we 2058 01:24:46,730 --> 01:24:44,100 were all there to do the same thing we 2059 01:24:48,170 --> 01:24:46,740 all studied we took the same tests so 2060 01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:48,180 you you earn the respect of your peers 2061 01:24:53,510 --> 01:24:51,090 by just doing the right thing we're all 2062 01:24:55,220 --> 01:24:53,520 accountable you know and that's how you 2063 01:24:58,400 --> 01:24:55,230 I just deal with it I didn't I've never 2064 01:25:00,050 --> 01:24:58,410 run across any issues especially here at 2065 01:25:02,860 --> 01:25:00,060 that Kennedy Space Center at NASA 2066 01:25:05,090 --> 01:25:02,870 there's to me there doesn't seem to be a 2067 01:25:12,220 --> 01:25:05,100 there's all you're a woman you can't do 2068 01:25:18,140 --> 01:25:14,630 over the weekend there was the issue 2069 01:25:20,870 --> 01:25:18,150 with the Atlas five rocket and you had 2070 01:25:22,610 --> 01:25:20,880 an extra round of testing on Monday how 2071 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:22,620 does this affect your launch team and 2072 01:25:28,610 --> 01:25:26,010 what role did you all have in that I 2073 01:25:30,650 --> 01:25:28,620 wasn't actually involved in the 2074 01:25:32,210 --> 01:25:30,660 discussions obviously Rex is my cube 2075 01:25:35,090 --> 01:25:32,220 mate he's or on the side an office mate 2076 01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:35,100 so I heard a lot of the discussions but 2077 01:25:39,410 --> 01:25:37,050 yes they worked all through the weekend 2078 01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:39,420 and today is their rest day so they're 2079 01:25:43,970 --> 01:25:42,210 all frosting and so they're all just as 2080 01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:43,980 excited to see you know light this up 2081 01:25:49,700 --> 01:25:48,210 and and go launch so it affects them 2082 01:25:52,860 --> 01:25:49,710 when the issues going on it's the 2083 01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:52,870 unknowns there was a lot of 2084 01:25:56,830 --> 01:25:55,130 between this issue with the rocket 2085 01:25:58,630 --> 01:25:56,840 engine you know with the Russians and 2086 01:26:00,580 --> 01:25:58,640 what we had what we knew what we didn't 2087 01:26:02,650 --> 01:26:00,590 know about it but once it was all 2088 01:26:03,940 --> 01:26:02,660 resolved I mean that's kind of like that 2089 01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:03,950 was yesterday and everybody's just 2090 01:26:08,190 --> 01:26:05,690 moving forward once we know there is no 2091 01:26:09,970 --> 01:26:08,200 issue and the risk is by reminder if any 2092 01:26:11,590 --> 01:26:09,980 everybody just puts it behind the 2093 01:26:19,209 --> 01:26:11,600 minutes the next day and the next the 2094 01:26:22,989 --> 01:26:21,640 is launch services program are you gonna 2095 01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:22,999 be working with any of the Commercial 2096 01:26:28,419 --> 01:26:26,090 Crew folk either Sierra Nevada or Boeing 2097 01:26:31,180 --> 01:26:28,429 we do have a few of our mission managers 2098 01:26:33,370 --> 01:26:31,190 that are helping out so as you know as 2099 01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:33,380 far as lessons learned through NASA we 2100 01:26:37,779 --> 01:26:35,449 do have lessons learned between programs 2101 01:26:40,870 --> 01:26:37,789 so we do have a mission manager on their 2102 01:26:42,910 --> 01:26:40,880 team helping them out as far as just 2103 01:26:44,830 --> 01:26:42,920 even helping on the rocket side and just 2104 01:26:48,310 --> 01:26:44,840 you know environments and and all the 2105 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:48,320 analysis and just lessons learned that 2106 01:26:54,339 --> 01:26:50,570 over you know we've been doing this here 2107 01:26:56,169 --> 01:26:54,349 at Kennedy since 1998 probably LSP is 2108 01:26:57,910 --> 01:26:56,179 involved in at least 70 launches through 2109 01:27:00,810 --> 01:26:57,920 now with a probably high successful rate 2110 01:27:02,290 --> 01:27:00,820 so we know pretty much that integration 2111 01:27:04,270 --> 01:27:02,300 side of things 2112 01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:04,280 so you've got the best of the shuttle 2113 01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:06,650 guys that launched humans and then you 2114 01:27:11,259 --> 01:27:09,050 got best of the rocket guys that launch 2115 01:27:15,359 --> 01:27:11,269 satellites and you're smelting together 2116 01:27:20,109 --> 01:27:17,890 know you said that choosing which 2117 01:27:22,060 --> 01:27:20,119 vehicle is best for the particular 2118 01:27:24,489 --> 01:27:22,070 mission is is what's involved as part of 2119 01:27:26,169 --> 01:27:24,499 your job how do you and I know that you 2120 01:27:27,580 --> 01:27:26,179 also mentioned that mission success is 2121 01:27:30,250 --> 01:27:27,590 one of the biggest things that you put 2122 01:27:32,529 --> 01:27:30,260 that you factor into that choosing which 2123 01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:32,539 vehicle especially with a lot of the new 2124 01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:34,010 vehicles or that are up-and-coming how 2125 01:27:38,229 --> 01:27:36,530 do you classify mission success when 2126 01:27:41,109 --> 01:27:38,239 choosing the next vehicle for a mission 2127 01:27:46,089 --> 01:27:41,119 such as like rbsp one of the things we 2128 01:27:47,890 --> 01:27:46,099 look at is besides the the require 2129 01:27:49,930 --> 01:27:47,900 current requirements of the spacecraft 2130 01:27:53,350 --> 01:27:49,940 there the mission we also look at past 2131 01:27:56,229 --> 01:27:53,360 performance so via vehicles that I've 2132 01:27:57,430 --> 01:27:56,239 launched you know numerous missions have 2133 01:27:59,649 --> 01:27:57,440 a little bit we have a little bit more 2134 01:28:01,839 --> 01:27:59,659 history on but we also have groups in 2135 01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:01,849 our office that are rocket specialists 2136 01:28:06,969 --> 01:28:04,610 and we're involved in uncoming vehicles 2137 01:28:09,910 --> 01:28:06,979 so in our arsenal of vehicles to choose 2138 01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:09,920 from we also have up and coming our some 2139 01:28:14,169 --> 01:28:12,170 vehicles that we're looking at they're 2140 01:28:16,569 --> 01:28:14,179 not they have to reach a certain 2141 01:28:18,790 --> 01:28:16,579 certification point national to bid for 2142 01:28:20,549 --> 01:28:18,800 a rocket but we're involved through 2143 01:28:23,319 --> 01:28:20,559 their development for instance SpaceX 2144 01:28:25,450 --> 01:28:23,329 SpaceX we have Falcon one and now just 2145 01:28:28,180 --> 01:28:25,460 recently we have the Falcon 9 available 2146 01:28:29,140 --> 01:28:28,190 to bid on contracts for us we have the 2147 01:28:31,530 --> 01:28:29,150 version 2148 01:28:33,670 --> 01:28:31,540 the Falcon 9 heavy is soon to be 2149 01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:33,680 eventually will be on the contract as 2150 01:28:39,790 --> 01:28:36,410 well and we have in-house folks helping 2151 01:28:42,090 --> 01:28:39,800 them develop so our team is is very 2152 01:28:44,230 --> 01:28:42,100 integrated into the launch vehicles 2153 01:28:47,140 --> 01:28:44,240 processes as well as some of the 2154 01:28:48,910 --> 01:28:47,150 spacecraft builders and so you have 2155 01:28:50,410 --> 01:28:48,920 insight and we have a we have a whole 2156 01:28:52,270 --> 01:28:50,420 group of folks that are like the quality 2157 01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:52,280 engineering folks we also have 2158 01:28:56,590 --> 01:28:54,410 independent engineering folks that 2159 01:28:58,840 --> 01:28:56,600 aren't specifically LSP but they do 2160 01:29:00,370 --> 01:28:58,850 support us as well which bring 2161 01:29:02,380 --> 01:29:00,380 experience from different missions as 2162 01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:02,390 well so it's not just because you've 2163 01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:04,970 launched before you're gonna get the 2164 01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:06,410 mission over someone that's never 2165 01:29:11,230 --> 01:29:08,570 launched before there is a give-and-take 2166 01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:11,240 on on how it's an its analyzed so saying 2167 01:29:14,740 --> 01:29:12,770 it's a rigorous process and we will make 2168 01:29:16,390 --> 01:29:14,750 sure that everybody has a fair shake at 2169 01:29:19,660 --> 01:29:16,400 getting Munchie and we want to promote 2170 01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:19,670 the newer vehicles to come onboard so 2171 01:29:24,970 --> 01:29:22,250 our baton just we just owned ramped 2172 01:29:27,730 --> 01:29:24,980 orbital there on Terry's vehicle also 2173 01:29:29,350 --> 01:29:27,740 onto the contract so our or the number 2174 01:29:31,150 --> 01:29:29,360 of vehicles we can select from ur are 2175 01:29:34,990 --> 01:29:31,160 growing which is a great thing because 2176 01:29:36,860 --> 01:29:35,000 there's a little more options last 2177 01:29:40,370 --> 01:29:36,870 question 2178 01:29:43,580 --> 01:29:40,380 um in in selecting which vehicles to use 2179 01:29:47,110 --> 01:29:43,590 for for various missions how much does 2180 01:29:51,050 --> 01:29:47,120 the environment of the launching site 2181 01:29:54,050 --> 01:29:51,060 factor into which vehicle use the 2182 01:29:55,850 --> 01:29:54,060 environment of the launch site that's 2183 01:29:57,620 --> 01:29:55,860 more specific like basically the 2184 01:29:59,150 --> 01:29:57,630 inclination of where you're going that's 2185 01:30:00,770 --> 01:29:59,160 that's where the determine and different 2186 01:30:04,730 --> 01:30:00,780 launch vehicle providers only have 2187 01:30:06,770 --> 01:30:04,740 launch pads at certain locations so for 2188 01:30:08,630 --> 01:30:06,780 instance a delta ii would have in the 2189 01:30:10,370 --> 01:30:08,640 past been able to launch from only from 2190 01:30:12,830 --> 01:30:10,380 kennedy now they're launching from 2191 01:30:14,690 --> 01:30:12,840 Vandenberg if you have a Falcon you 2192 01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:14,700 would be launching from Vandenberg so 2193 01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:16,770 that kind of limits also sometimes which 2194 01:30:20,990 --> 01:30:18,930 vehicles can actually bid for different 2195 01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:21,000 missions because they can't reach 2196 01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:23,210 certain inclinations in certain orbits 2197 01:30:28,310 --> 01:30:25,410 then you have the Pegasus that can 2198 01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:28,320 launch off of a plane so they pretty 2199 01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:29,730 much have an open field and so they have 2200 01:30:34,820 --> 01:30:31,890 various sites but it all really depends 2201 01:30:36,860 --> 01:30:34,830 on that inclination as if you're asking 2202 01:30:39,410 --> 01:30:36,870 as far as like whether if like the 2203 01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:39,420 environment at the launch site you deal 2204 01:30:42,290 --> 01:30:40,770 with it you have storms on the East 2205 01:30:45,380 --> 01:30:42,300 Coast and on the west coast depending 2206 01:30:47,660 --> 01:30:45,390 what time of the year you have winds but 2207 01:30:50,330 --> 01:30:47,670 yeah we manage it and we have the 2208 01:30:51,620 --> 01:30:50,340 weather state though the weather for 2209 01:30:54,230 --> 01:30:51,630 weather folks on this side we have the 2210 01:30:56,810 --> 01:30:54,240 eastern range air force that manages all 2211 01:30:58,130 --> 01:30:56,820 the environments for us and predicts you 2212 01:30:59,810 --> 01:30:58,140 know makes all the predictions and make 2213 01:31:02,020 --> 01:30:59,820 sure we don't launch in the middle of a 2214 01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:02,030 lightning storm 2215 01:31:11,009 --> 01:31:05,570 thank you very much Allie all right 2216 01:31:13,660 --> 01:31:11,019 [Applause] 2217 01:31:15,189 --> 01:31:13,670 next up we have astronaut Leland Melvin 2218 01:31:16,899 --> 01:31:15,199 he's currently the associate 2219 01:31:29,379 --> 01:31:16,909 administrator for education at NASA 2220 01:31:32,770 --> 01:31:29,389 headquarters so welcome good afternoon 2221 01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:32,780 everyone how you doing come on that was 2222 01:31:37,930 --> 01:31:36,170 pretty weak how you doing I mean you're 2223 01:31:39,819 --> 01:31:37,940 here on the eve of a shot of a lot not 2224 01:31:41,259 --> 01:31:39,829 shuttle launch and here feel the launch 2225 01:31:43,359 --> 01:31:41,269 I wish it were shuttle launch so now we 2226 01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:43,369 want it but I that's not the case 2227 01:31:47,199 --> 01:31:45,050 Allie that was great some great 2228 01:31:48,750 --> 01:31:47,209 information and thanks for that great 2229 01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:48,760 information on rbsp 2230 01:31:54,100 --> 01:31:50,690 you're gonna have a very interesting 2231 01:31:55,419 --> 01:31:54,110 tweet up opportunity today we have some 2232 01:31:58,600 --> 01:31:55,429 really cool people that you're gonna 2233 01:32:00,040 --> 01:31:58,610 have a chance to hear and what we're 2234 01:32:01,270 --> 01:32:00,050 trying to do with NASA education is 2235 01:32:04,629 --> 01:32:01,280 inspire the next generation of explorers 2236 01:32:06,899 --> 01:32:04,639 and you guys are our our field generals 2237 01:32:09,509 --> 01:32:06,909 to help get that message out to get that 2238 01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:09,519 message spread around the cosmos and 2239 01:32:13,779 --> 01:32:11,449 we've been doing something called a 2240 01:32:15,819 --> 01:32:13,789 summer of innovation for the last last 2241 01:32:17,830 --> 01:32:15,829 three years we're trying to give 2242 01:32:19,810 --> 01:32:17,840 hands-on experiential activities to kids 2243 01:32:21,250 --> 01:32:19,820 in the summertime to help combat this 2244 01:32:23,379 --> 01:32:21,260 Summer Slide that we've been having with 2245 01:32:25,660 --> 01:32:23,389 kids in school so if you can show the 2246 01:32:28,299 --> 01:32:25,670 first slide we've got a picture of a 2247 01:32:29,739 --> 01:32:28,309 little boy at Dyer Observatory in 2248 01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:29,749 Nashville Tennessee Vanderbilt 2249 01:32:33,459 --> 01:32:31,489 University we've done a lot of work 2250 01:32:35,799 --> 01:32:33,469 within with some organization and we 2251 01:32:37,629 --> 01:32:35,809 have a very special guest from Nashville 2252 01:32:39,790 --> 01:32:37,639 is gonna do some really cool stuff next 2253 01:32:41,379 --> 01:32:39,800 slide this is a picture of a little boy 2254 01:32:43,569 --> 01:32:41,389 getting his pressure suit on 2255 01:32:45,549 --> 01:32:43,579 but these are the types of experiences 2256 01:32:47,350 --> 01:32:45,559 that kids never forget and we find that 2257 01:32:49,629 --> 01:32:47,360 if you get a brain activated if you get 2258 01:32:51,609 --> 01:32:49,639 them thinking about themselves being the 2259 01:32:54,370 --> 01:32:51,619 astronauts being scientist rocket 2260 01:32:56,259 --> 01:32:54,380 scientist all these people then that 2261 01:32:57,879 --> 01:32:56,269 gets them turned on and they take those 2262 01:33:00,790 --> 01:32:57,889 harder classes and they do the things 2263 01:33:03,219 --> 01:33:00,800 required to become a stemis so next 2264 01:33:05,020 --> 01:33:03,229 slide here's a little girl making her 2265 01:33:09,100 --> 01:33:05,030 Rover she was making a rover for 2266 01:33:11,350 --> 01:33:09,110 curiosity week in the next slide these 2267 01:33:14,279 --> 01:33:11,360 are young boys that were looking up at 2268 01:33:16,989 --> 01:33:14,289 the Venus transit and when I think about 2269 01:33:18,580 --> 01:33:16,999 explorers we all look up into the sky we 2270 01:33:21,819 --> 01:33:18,590 look up into the heavens to see what's 2271 01:33:22,060 --> 01:33:21,829 out there and as we tweet and as we send 2272 01:33:23,770 --> 01:33:22,070 our 2273 01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:23,780 messages around the cosmos that goes 2274 01:33:28,780 --> 01:33:26,210 through the sky comes down but we have 2275 01:33:30,970 --> 01:33:28,790 to use sometimes alternative ways to get 2276 01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:30,980 kids inspired whether it's sports 2277 01:33:35,260 --> 01:33:33,170 whether it's music not no matter what it 2278 01:33:37,109 --> 01:33:35,270 is and so the next person you're going 2279 01:33:39,879 --> 01:33:37,119 to hear is a good friend 2280 01:33:41,919 --> 01:33:39,889 singer-songwriter Beth Nilsson Chapman 2281 01:33:44,470 --> 01:33:41,929 who's going to entertain you a little 2282 01:33:48,180 --> 01:33:44,480 bit with some of these songs that relate 2283 01:33:54,300 --> 01:33:48,190 to the mighty sky so come on down Beth 2284 01:33:58,689 --> 01:33:54,310 [Applause] 2285 01:34:01,839 --> 01:33:58,699 rock stars in the house yeah alright 2286 01:34:03,550 --> 01:34:01,849 it's great to be here and I'm from 2287 01:34:05,050 --> 01:34:03,560 Nashville Tennessee which is the vortex 2288 01:34:07,839 --> 01:34:05,060 of songwriting just like this is the 2289 01:34:09,879 --> 01:34:07,849 vortex of space exploration and myself 2290 01:34:11,859 --> 01:34:09,889 and rocky Alvey created this little 2291 01:34:14,410 --> 01:34:11,869 project and and actually tried these 2292 01:34:17,229 --> 01:34:14,420 songs out on the children from summer of 2293 01:34:19,419 --> 01:34:17,239 innovation and we think of songs as a 2294 01:34:21,339 --> 01:34:19,429 great can of can opener into getting all 2295 01:34:26,770 --> 01:34:21,349 that information this song is called the 2296 01:34:29,649 --> 01:34:26,780 big bang boom that's right y'all have to 2297 01:34:33,010 --> 01:34:29,659 sing on the boom it sounds like this 2298 01:34:35,020 --> 01:34:33,020 boom only really loud okay since I love 2299 01:34:41,830 --> 01:34:35,030 you oh yeah and he's gonna be the 2300 01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:53,220 [Music] 2301 01:35:01,900 --> 01:34:57,120 the universe is the strangest place 2302 01:35:06,480 --> 01:35:01,910 started with the Big Bang created time 2303 01:35:11,740 --> 01:35:06,490 also space way back in the Big Bang boom 2304 01:35:16,110 --> 01:35:11,750 no galaxies or stars to see way back in 2305 01:35:19,150 --> 01:35:16,120 the Big Bang boom an expanded 2306 01:35:23,350 --> 01:35:19,160 singularity way back in the Big Bang 2307 01:35:28,890 --> 01:35:23,360 boom the Big Bang balloon the Big Bang 2308 01:35:28,900 --> 01:35:33,300 [Music] 2309 01:35:41,050 --> 01:35:38,460 created from the Big Bang boom excellent 2310 01:35:45,670 --> 01:35:41,060 I'd like y'all come out on the road with 2311 01:35:49,660 --> 01:35:45,680 me at first no Adams could be found way 2312 01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:49,670 back in the Big Bang bill they all were 2313 01:35:56,980 --> 01:35:52,850 formed when it all cooled down way back 2314 01:36:00,550 --> 01:35:56,990 in the Big Bang boom oh and galaxy 2315 01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:00,560 that's our fun way back in the Big Bang 2316 01:36:10,750 --> 01:36:06,410 boom it expanding singularity way back 2317 01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:10,760 in the Big Bang boom the Big Bang the 2318 01:36:22,900 --> 01:36:15,890 Big Bang started with the Big Bang all 2319 01:36:30,550 --> 01:36:22,910 the universe is created from the Big 2320 01:36:35,290 --> 01:36:30,560 Bang galaxies they fly apart close 2321 01:36:39,689 --> 01:36:35,300 throughout the very start you can say oh 2322 01:36:47,829 --> 01:36:43,799 you can see the first light shine 2323 01:36:50,460 --> 01:36:47,839 telescopes look back in time and in your 2324 01:37:02,280 --> 01:36:50,470 head you could 2325 01:37:02,290 --> 01:37:11,420 [Music] 2326 01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:15,960 created from the Big Bang all came from 2327 01:37:20,220 --> 01:37:19,690 the Big Bang who started with the Big 2328 01:37:42,970 --> 01:37:20,230 Bang 2329 01:37:48,490 --> 01:37:42,980 [Music] 2330 01:37:51,350 --> 01:37:48,500 [Applause] 2331 01:37:52,610 --> 01:37:51,360 dude do we have any questions we only do 2332 01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:52,620 a couple more songs but do we have any 2333 01:37:58,640 --> 01:37:55,530 questions for from the audience so far 2334 01:38:05,060 --> 01:37:58,650 yes sir when is will.i.am going to drop 2335 01:38:06,740 --> 01:38:05,070 the Mars song when is will I am gonna 2336 01:38:08,570 --> 01:38:06,750 drop something 2337 01:38:11,740 --> 01:38:08,580 there's the song he was gonna do for 2338 01:38:21,860 --> 01:38:11,750 Mars patience my friend okay patience 2339 01:38:24,770 --> 01:38:21,870 any other questions as a fellow 2340 01:38:27,380 --> 01:38:24,780 singer-songwriter myself what got you 2341 01:38:29,660 --> 01:38:27,390 inspired to do the the science lyrics 2342 01:38:31,130 --> 01:38:29,670 and a creativity in your music well 2343 01:38:33,230 --> 01:38:31,140 that's a great question well my my 2344 01:38:35,480 --> 01:38:33,240 co-writer rocky Alvey who is the 2345 01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:35,490 director of the Dyer Observatory in 2346 01:38:40,940 --> 01:38:38,730 Vanderbilt in Nashville had these lyrics 2347 01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:40,950 and some of the songs started and he had 2348 01:38:43,910 --> 01:38:42,210 we'd been working together over the 2349 01:38:46,550 --> 01:38:43,920 years and you know I said you really 2350 01:38:47,990 --> 01:38:46,560 need to do a an album and so I got kind 2351 01:38:50,510 --> 01:38:48,000 of pulled into it because the words were 2352 01:38:52,340 --> 01:38:50,520 so interesting and I'd never really 2353 01:38:54,410 --> 01:38:52,350 known a lot of the stuff about astronomy 2354 01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:54,420 and you know that's the great thing 2355 01:38:59,660 --> 01:38:57,330 about the way songs can kind of give you 2356 01:39:01,880 --> 01:38:59,670 this entree into remembering all the 2357 01:39:03,230 --> 01:39:01,890 information so we've we just had so much 2358 01:39:04,850 --> 01:39:03,240 fun working on it it's the most fun I've 2359 01:39:07,850 --> 01:39:04,860 ever had making a record not been making 2360 01:39:09,590 --> 01:39:07,860 records for 30 years so you know it's 2361 01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:09,600 been really a blast and especially fun 2362 01:39:15,050 --> 01:39:13,290 to watch kids get excited and and see 2363 01:39:15,650 --> 01:39:15,060 the light bulbs light bulbs go off in 2364 01:39:17,390 --> 01:39:15,660 their heads 2365 01:39:23,090 --> 01:39:17,400 here's rocky back here from you observed 2366 01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:26,190 and say one thing that's I can say about 2367 01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:29,890 this album and the songs is NASA has 2368 01:39:34,410 --> 01:39:32,290 been a huge part of an inspiration in my 2369 01:39:36,930 --> 01:39:34,420 life from the time I was a kid one of 2370 01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:36,940 the first memories I have of the sky is 2371 01:39:41,010 --> 01:39:39,010 watching a satellite go across the sky 2372 01:39:42,450 --> 01:39:41,020 when I was about 8 years old as a result 2373 01:39:44,970 --> 01:39:42,460 of those experiences you know I wrote 2374 01:39:46,380 --> 01:39:44,980 these lyrics and songs and Beth and I 2375 01:39:49,350 --> 01:39:46,390 put it together our whole deal is 2376 01:39:50,820 --> 01:39:49,360 turning kids on to science and summer of 2377 01:39:53,310 --> 01:39:50,830 innovation has been such a wonderful 2378 01:39:54,750 --> 01:39:53,320 thing for us at Dyer Observatory because 2379 01:39:57,300 --> 01:39:54,760 we've been able to through summer of 2380 01:39:59,640 --> 01:39:57,310 innovation interface astronauts and 2381 01:40:00,870 --> 01:39:59,650 physicist scientists of all sort with 2382 01:40:02,850 --> 01:40:00,880 these kids who never have that 2383 01:40:04,350 --> 01:40:02,860 experience and so our whole thing is 2384 01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:04,360 getting kids they may not end up being 2385 01:40:08,580 --> 01:40:05,530 scientists they'll be more 2386 01:40:09,810 --> 01:40:08,590 scientifically literate but and some of 2387 01:40:13,190 --> 01:40:09,820 them will be scientists we've had 2388 01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:13,200 several multiple years of epo 2389 01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:16,330 grants from NASA and that has allowed us 2390 01:40:20,460 --> 01:40:17,530 to connect kids who'd never get 2391 01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:20,470 connected with with these great great 2392 01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:23,650 astronauts and scientists so like Leland 2393 01:40:26,450 --> 01:40:24,130 yeah 2394 01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:26,460 who's there this summer inspiring kids 2395 01:40:30,630 --> 01:40:28,690 and I think one of the other things that 2396 01:40:33,570 --> 01:40:30,640 you know we have we think about I think 2397 01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:33,580 about Stone Soup making this education 2398 01:40:38,250 --> 01:40:35,890 piece a partnership you know NASA has a 2399 01:40:40,350 --> 01:40:38,260 piece singer-songwriters have a piece 2400 01:40:43,020 --> 01:40:40,360 you know astrophysicists have a piece 2401 01:40:44,970 --> 01:40:43,030 private sector has a piece and we all 2402 01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:44,980 play in this together I mean you guys 2403 01:40:48,750 --> 01:40:47,290 sending tweets out right now probably 2404 01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:48,760 know of many school teachers that you 2405 01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:51,010 can go and talk to about the programs we 2406 01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:52,570 have at NASA that can help inspire some 2407 01:40:55,500 --> 01:40:54,130 of those kids or even the programs that 2408 01:40:57,090 --> 01:40:55,510 we have for teachers to get them more 2409 01:40:59,370 --> 01:40:57,100 prepared to be better science teachers 2410 01:41:01,290 --> 01:40:59,380 and so I think that's that's really the 2411 01:41:03,540 --> 01:41:01,300 the special sauce about all of this is 2412 01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:03,550 that one organization cannot do it alone 2413 01:41:08,010 --> 01:41:05,530 it takes parents who takes parents to be 2414 01:41:09,930 --> 01:41:08,020 involved with their kids education also 2415 01:41:11,970 --> 01:41:09,940 which a lot of parents really don't 2416 01:41:14,130 --> 01:41:11,980 understand the science but you know we 2417 01:41:15,810 --> 01:41:14,140 have programs that say you don't have to 2418 01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:15,820 be a scientist to raise a scientist so 2419 01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:17,410 we teach parents of things that they 2420 01:41:20,550 --> 01:41:18,850 need to do to get their kids to become 2421 01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:20,560 scientists and engineers so that's 2422 01:41:25,260 --> 01:41:23,050 another another piece of this pie and we 2423 01:41:28,230 --> 01:41:25,270 just had a really cool person walk in 2424 01:41:33,310 --> 01:41:28,240 our administrator charlie bolden come on 2425 01:41:38,930 --> 01:41:36,440 for time flown Shuttle astronaut and 2426 01:41:48,830 --> 01:41:38,940 he's also got a call signed by the name 2427 01:41:50,870 --> 01:41:48,840 of Panther I just I came by as I usually 2428 01:41:53,150 --> 01:41:50,880 like to do to welcome you all and thank 2429 01:41:55,810 --> 01:41:53,160 you for coming you know I was sitting in 2430 01:41:58,670 --> 01:41:55,820 the back and I've had the experience of 2431 01:42:01,250 --> 01:41:58,680 watching Beth do her thing for a while 2432 01:42:03,620 --> 01:42:01,260 and I will add something to what Leland 2433 01:42:06,170 --> 01:42:03,630 said that I think it's really important 2434 01:42:07,790 --> 01:42:06,180 and I shortly after I became the NASA 2435 01:42:09,950 --> 01:42:07,800 Administrator and we sat around we had 2436 01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:09,960 an educational I guess we call it an 2437 01:42:15,440 --> 01:42:12,530 education summit where we brought 2438 01:42:18,070 --> 01:42:15,450 representatives in from colleges and 2439 01:42:21,530 --> 01:42:18,080 universities museums and the like about 2440 01:42:23,450 --> 01:42:21,540 25-30 people and we were looking for 2441 01:42:26,690 --> 01:42:23,460 help in in trying to make our 2442 01:42:28,700 --> 01:42:26,700 educational program more effective and 2443 01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:28,710 enabling us to reach more kids about 2444 01:42:33,530 --> 01:42:31,530 STEM education because the president 2445 01:42:35,990 --> 01:42:33,540 went when I talked to him about taking 2446 01:42:39,890 --> 01:42:36,000 this job the first thing he talked to me 2447 01:42:41,900 --> 01:42:39,900 about was was inspiring kids to want to 2448 01:42:45,350 --> 01:42:41,910 get into STEM education and STEM fields 2449 01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:45,360 and and so that was the deal we made if 2450 01:42:52,300 --> 01:42:47,370 if after the first year I didn't have 2451 01:42:55,220 --> 01:42:52,310 lien MAHS and Malia and Sasha Malia 2452 01:42:58,730 --> 01:42:55,230 Sasha and Malia interested in math and 2453 01:43:00,620 --> 01:42:58,740 science then he could fire me I think 2454 01:43:03,410 --> 01:43:00,630 they're interested in math and science 2455 01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:03,420 at least I hope so with a mom and dad 2456 01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:05,730 who really push it the way they do but 2457 01:43:10,700 --> 01:43:08,250 in that on that day of the summit 2458 01:43:14,450 --> 01:43:10,710 you know we what we wanted to name the 2459 01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:14,460 summer was summer of science and and it 2460 01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:15,690 was interesting because there was a 2461 01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:17,130 representative from I think was the 2462 01:43:21,980 --> 01:43:19,050 Boston Museum of Natural History or the 2463 01:43:23,450 --> 01:43:21,990 Boston Art Museum and and he raised his 2464 01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:23,460 hand he said let me make one 2465 01:43:28,430 --> 01:43:25,650 recommendation he said whatever you do 2466 01:43:32,480 --> 01:43:28,440 don't put science in the name and we 2467 01:43:33,770 --> 01:43:32,490 went Wow help me understand this he said 2468 01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:33,780 what you're gonna do is you're gonna 2469 01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:36,090 turn kids off who don't know that 2470 01:43:37,850 --> 01:43:37,290 they're interested in science and 2471 01:43:39,860 --> 01:43:37,860 engineering 2472 01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:39,870 he said because they're afraid of it he 2473 01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:41,130 said what you're trying to do is 2474 01:43:45,770 --> 01:43:43,650 overcome their fear of science 2475 01:43:48,350 --> 01:43:45,780 they have teachers who are afraid to 2476 01:43:51,229 --> 01:43:48,360 teach it and it and it really stuck with 2477 01:43:52,669 --> 01:43:51,239 us and so we started thinking about 2478 01:43:58,280 --> 01:43:52,679 things you could do and that's where the 2479 01:44:02,330 --> 01:43:58,290 innovation came from you know and it's 2480 01:44:05,750 --> 01:44:02,340 just one young man who represents the 2481 01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:05,760 Society of black engineers he had heard 2482 01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:08,130 me talk about inspiring kids all day 2483 01:44:12,050 --> 01:44:10,890 long he said I just I have had it he 2484 01:44:14,330 --> 01:44:12,060 said you know you keep talking about 2485 01:44:17,209 --> 01:44:14,340 inspiring kids we are not going to be 2486 01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:17,219 able to inspire anybody unless we can 2487 01:44:20,810 --> 01:44:18,690 bring them out where they see what's 2488 01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:20,820 available so you've got to make things 2489 01:44:25,340 --> 01:44:23,250 available to them first so that they 2490 01:44:26,510 --> 01:44:25,350 know some they have something about 2491 01:44:29,870 --> 01:44:26,520 which to be inspired 2492 01:44:35,450 --> 01:44:29,880 that's what Beth does you know I sat on 2493 01:44:38,870 --> 01:44:35,460 a in a pub in many pubs in in in Dublin 2494 01:44:41,450 --> 01:44:38,880 Ireland with Beth and watched her work 2495 01:44:44,300 --> 01:44:41,460 her magic with people she had never seen 2496 01:44:48,470 --> 01:44:44,310 before but people who have a love of 2497 01:44:51,620 --> 01:44:48,480 music and then as she played through the 2498 01:44:54,020 --> 01:44:51,630 night to get engaged in conversations 2499 01:44:56,090 --> 01:44:54,030 with people about space and about 2500 01:44:58,040 --> 01:44:56,100 science and about those kinds of things 2501 01:45:00,200 --> 01:44:58,050 that conversation would have never 2502 01:45:03,350 --> 01:45:00,210 happened had it not been for somebody 2503 01:45:05,209 --> 01:45:03,360 bringing bringing it to them to let them 2504 01:45:07,010 --> 01:45:05,219 know that was available and so that's 2505 01:45:08,660 --> 01:45:07,020 what Leland and his folk are trying to 2506 01:45:10,850 --> 01:45:08,670 do they're just trying to make sure that 2507 01:45:14,060 --> 01:45:10,860 that kids know what's available so that 2508 01:45:16,250 --> 01:45:14,070 they can be inspired so so the summer of 2509 01:45:18,770 --> 01:45:16,260 innovation is about trying to reach two 2510 01:45:20,390 --> 01:45:18,780 groups of people and in my in my mind 2511 01:45:24,380 --> 01:45:20,400 the most important group we're trying to 2512 01:45:26,419 --> 01:45:24,390 reach is the teachers because we can we 2513 01:45:28,970 --> 01:45:26,429 can touch a million kids and we've 2514 01:45:32,410 --> 01:45:28,980 touched a million kids if we touch a 2515 01:45:37,399 --> 01:45:32,420 thousand teachers let me tell you it is 2516 01:45:39,620 --> 01:45:37,409 countless how many kids you reach so by 2517 01:45:42,470 --> 01:45:39,630 reaching you all I mean how many of you 2518 01:45:44,570 --> 01:45:42,480 sitting in this room we never did this 2519 01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:44,580 stuff before and I heard me tell you 2520 01:45:49,939 --> 01:45:46,050 this how much I appreciate your being 2521 01:45:52,850 --> 01:45:49,949 here we will reach more people today by 2522 01:45:55,550 --> 01:45:52,860 your being in this session the NASA has 2523 01:45:57,170 --> 01:45:55,560 ever been able to reach and doing things 2524 01:45:59,770 --> 01:45:57,180 the way we used to do them 2525 01:46:03,080 --> 01:45:59,780 we depended on people trying to find a 2526 01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:03,090 place in the country that had nasa-tv 2527 01:46:09,260 --> 01:46:06,570 or trying to find any media outlet that 2528 01:46:10,790 --> 01:46:09,270 would even mention NASA you know other 2529 01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:10,800 than the first few years of the space 2530 01:46:16,250 --> 01:46:13,410 shuttle program people talk about NASA 2531 01:46:17,780 --> 01:46:16,260 and us and you every single day because 2532 01:46:20,180 --> 01:46:17,790 you're communicating with them and 2533 01:46:22,070 --> 01:46:20,190 you're telling the story and so I can't 2534 01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:22,080 thank you enough for what you do because 2535 01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:25,770 you just you bring a different medium to 2536 01:46:30,740 --> 01:46:28,650 our ability to reach people not just 2537 01:46:32,060 --> 01:46:30,750 kids but people but but the kids are 2538 01:46:33,470 --> 01:46:32,070 really important and the teachers are 2539 01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:33,480 important so I'll thank you for that I 2540 01:46:37,850 --> 01:46:35,730 don't I don't think they want me to stay 2541 01:46:39,350 --> 01:46:37,860 very long but I we can keep trying to 2542 01:46:42,350 --> 01:46:39,360 see if you have some more questions that 2543 01:46:44,210 --> 01:46:42,360 I can that I can answer for you and if I 2544 01:46:47,930 --> 01:46:44,220 can't answer them I've got I've got the 2545 01:46:50,870 --> 01:46:47,940 my driver in the back I'm just kidding 2546 01:46:52,940 --> 01:46:50,880 no well eat up well he'd raise your hand 2547 01:46:54,260 --> 01:46:52,950 well eat up delighted a guy in the white 2548 01:46:58,430 --> 01:46:54,270 shirt back there is the NASA chief 2549 01:47:00,590 --> 01:46:58,440 scientist he is fascinating he he is a 2550 01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:00,600 former NASA employee who is a college 2551 01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:02,610 professor he's a professor at the 2552 01:47:07,700 --> 01:47:04,050 University of Colorado but he's been 2553 01:47:10,070 --> 01:47:07,710 with us for almost two years now working 2554 01:47:11,780 --> 01:47:10,080 as the chief scientist his passion is 2555 01:47:15,110 --> 01:47:11,790 ice he's a Glaciology 2556 01:47:16,970 --> 01:47:15,120 he's a glacier guy and and he's really 2557 01:47:19,250 --> 01:47:16,980 upset right now because he's he's 2558 01:47:21,950 --> 01:47:19,260 running out of glaciers and and and all 2559 01:47:25,010 --> 01:47:21,960 as he's concerned as are we all 2560 01:47:27,140 --> 01:47:25,020 the other fella back there with the much 2561 01:47:29,330 --> 01:47:27,150 more formally dressed David rez now ski 2562 01:47:31,790 --> 01:47:29,340 with the glasses on is the NASA chief of 2563 01:47:33,260 --> 01:47:31,800 staff and he loves getting out and 2564 01:47:35,090 --> 01:47:33,270 having an opportunity to talk to people 2565 01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:35,100 something the chief of staff did not 2566 01:47:39,650 --> 01:47:37,290 ordinarily do but he's incredibly good 2567 01:47:41,420 --> 01:47:39,660 at it and and so I try to get him out 2568 01:47:43,370 --> 01:47:41,430 and then the star of the of the whole 2569 01:47:44,210 --> 01:47:43,380 team is the guy with the yellow tie on 2570 01:47:45,710 --> 01:47:44,220 and the blue shirt 2571 01:47:47,990 --> 01:47:45,720 David Weaver who heads the 2572 01:47:49,910 --> 01:47:48,000 communications effort out of NASA 2573 01:47:52,340 --> 01:47:49,920 headquarters and he and I go back and 2574 01:47:54,710 --> 01:47:52,350 forth a lot and I and I have to remind 2575 01:47:59,540 --> 01:47:54,720 him he's passionate I'm passionate we 2576 01:48:01,400 --> 01:47:59,550 both cry and and and and it's because we 2577 01:48:03,500 --> 01:48:01,410 are so passionate about what we do that 2578 01:48:05,990 --> 01:48:03,510 we don't always agree on things but I 2579 01:48:08,210 --> 01:48:06,000 can always count on David telling me how 2580 01:48:10,130 --> 01:48:08,220 to get the message out and if I'm smart 2581 01:48:11,029 --> 01:48:10,140 enough I do it and on days that I think 2582 01:48:12,469 --> 01:48:11,039 I'm smarter 2583 01:48:16,309 --> 01:48:12,479 I don't and it turns out to be a really 2584 01:48:17,899 --> 01:48:16,319 bad day so I'm learning anyway so that's 2585 01:48:20,869 --> 01:48:17,909 there are other other members of the 2586 01:48:23,799 --> 01:48:20,879 team but yeah who else is back there 2587 01:48:25,789 --> 01:48:23,809 Oh Debra's back there the chief she 2588 01:48:28,129 --> 01:48:25,799 never step out for a minute because 2589 01:48:30,579 --> 01:48:28,139 we're getting ready to lose Debra Debra 2590 01:48:33,109 --> 01:48:30,589 is Debra is a White House Fellow and 2591 01:48:35,389 --> 01:48:33,119 we've been privileged to have her on the 2592 01:48:38,539 --> 01:48:35,399 team for almost a year now she will 2593 01:48:41,569 --> 01:48:38,549 leave next week and and wants to go back 2594 01:48:43,609 --> 01:48:41,579 and do some things in education and so I 2595 01:48:46,789 --> 01:48:43,619 promised her I was gonna help her in 2596 01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:46,799 every way I can because she she really 2597 01:48:52,579 --> 01:48:50,010 knows how to do things and so she's been 2598 01:48:54,020 --> 01:48:52,589 in the office with me for a year we've 2599 01:48:56,539 --> 01:48:54,030 been privileged to have three 2600 01:48:58,039 --> 01:48:56,549 consecutive White House fellows and and 2601 01:49:00,529 --> 01:48:58,049 to tell you if you've never met one they 2602 01:49:03,919 --> 01:49:00,539 are really really really really really 2603 01:49:06,049 --> 01:49:03,929 sharp so Debra that didn't get a chance 2604 01:49:07,459 --> 01:49:06,059 to thank you before now but but thanks 2605 01:49:09,679 --> 01:49:07,469 very much for the year with us and 2606 01:49:11,209 --> 01:49:09,689 talked to some of these people sometime 2607 01:49:14,029 --> 01:49:11,219 anybody have a question that I can 2608 01:49:16,459 --> 01:49:14,039 answer for you yes hi I'm this is less a 2609 01:49:18,559 --> 01:49:16,469 question than a thank you for my son 2610 01:49:20,839 --> 01:49:18,569 who's also named Charlie he was able to 2611 01:49:23,239 --> 01:49:20,849 go through the shuttle experience 2612 01:49:25,069 --> 01:49:23,249 yesterday at the Visitor Center and he 2613 01:49:27,079 --> 01:49:25,079 really enjoyed it so you're inspiring 2614 01:49:29,989 --> 01:49:27,089 thank you thanks very much that was fun 2615 01:49:31,189 --> 01:49:29,999 doing that and I'd you know um for 2616 01:49:32,149 --> 01:49:31,199 anybody who doesn't know they should 2617 01:49:33,849 --> 01:49:32,159 tell me that the shuttle launch 2618 01:49:36,619 --> 01:49:33,859 experience over in the visitors center 2619 01:49:39,979 --> 01:49:36,629 it was really a lot of fun putting that 2620 01:49:41,989 --> 01:49:39,989 together with with Bob Rogers and a 2621 01:49:43,909 --> 01:49:41,999 whole bunch of other folk from who came 2622 01:49:45,529 --> 01:49:43,919 in to help us with it and it's great if 2623 01:49:47,750 --> 01:49:45,539 you haven't had an opportunity to do it 2624 01:49:49,729 --> 01:49:47,760 it's closest thing to go into space to 2625 01:49:52,549 --> 01:49:49,739 be quite honest so without going there 2626 01:49:55,069 --> 01:49:52,559 anybody else yes yes I have a question 2627 01:49:58,789 --> 01:49:55,079 I'm a reach recent participant in the 2628 01:50:00,859 --> 01:49:58,799 NASA EPDM program and that was 2629 01:50:03,829 --> 01:50:00,869 affiliated with Georgia Tech and as a 2630 01:50:06,889 --> 01:50:03,839 teacher I found it interesting is even 2631 01:50:10,039 --> 01:50:06,899 though this was a very much a free 2632 01:50:12,559 --> 01:50:10,049 program for teacher stem teachers I only 2633 01:50:15,259 --> 01:50:12,569 found 50 or 60 teachers within each of 2634 01:50:16,729 --> 01:50:15,269 my classes I would expect something to 2635 01:50:19,189 --> 01:50:16,739 be more like thousands of teachers 2636 01:50:21,500 --> 01:50:19,199 throughout the world what can we do 2637 01:50:23,689 --> 01:50:21,510 within the NASA social community that we 2638 01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:23,699 have here right now to help promote the 2639 01:50:26,569 --> 01:50:24,570 stem 2640 01:50:30,169 --> 01:50:26,579 teaching cause that you guys are so well 2641 01:50:33,169 --> 01:50:30,179 promoting tweet nasa.gov slash education 2642 01:50:35,089 --> 01:50:33,179 and point to the EPD n work that we have 2643 01:50:37,819 --> 01:50:35,099 there I mean you went through it you did 2644 01:50:39,379 --> 01:50:37,829 the robotics I actually did the the 2645 01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:39,389 continuing network with all the online 2646 01:50:43,669 --> 01:50:42,090 teaching tools okay okay but again it's 2647 01:50:46,370 --> 01:50:43,679 a it's a messaging thing if we can get 2648 01:50:49,069 --> 01:50:46,380 it out you know multiply this room by 2649 01:50:51,589 --> 01:50:49,079 thousands that have access to NASA 2650 01:50:53,629 --> 01:50:51,599 education Twitter and social media you 2651 01:50:56,479 --> 01:50:53,639 know avenues and it's just it's just a 2652 01:50:58,760 --> 01:50:56,489 continuous process you know and Charlie 2653 01:51:00,979 --> 01:50:58,770 said it we have to do use you guys as 2654 01:51:02,450 --> 01:51:00,989 better tools to get that message out so 2655 01:51:04,490 --> 01:51:02,460 it's a lot of things like that we have a 2656 01:51:05,660 --> 01:51:04,500 lot of content out there that teachers 2657 01:51:07,959 --> 01:51:05,670 don't know about that they could be 2658 01:51:10,220 --> 01:51:07,969 using we have instruction materials 2659 01:51:11,899 --> 01:51:10,230 rocket guide so many different things 2660 01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:11,909 but it's again it's a it's a messaging 2661 01:51:18,620 --> 01:51:15,210 piece yeah and I just wanted to thank 2662 01:51:20,930 --> 01:51:18,630 you for the free xbox msl game my 14 2663 01:51:22,609 --> 01:51:20,940 year old actually got engaged if in 2664 01:51:28,970 --> 01:51:22,619 version 2 you can add the Master Chief 2665 01:51:30,740 --> 01:51:28,980 you will hook him I'm a recent graduate 2666 01:51:32,089 --> 01:51:30,750 at the University of Florida and I was 2667 01:51:34,030 --> 01:51:32,099 part of a Nia double a group there that 2668 01:51:36,319 --> 01:51:34,040 would always put on like a yearly 2669 01:51:37,669 --> 01:51:36,329 outreach to middle school students try 2670 01:51:39,649 --> 01:51:37,679 and get them involved in space we call 2671 01:51:41,270 --> 01:51:39,659 it aerospace day and I know that NASA 2672 01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:41,280 offers a lot of opportunities to have 2673 01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:43,050 speakers come I know if you have a big 2674 01:51:46,339 --> 01:51:44,130 event you can have an astronaut come 2675 01:51:47,839 --> 01:51:46,349 what are some some ways that we can help 2676 01:51:50,060 --> 01:51:47,849 get NASA involved in an event like that 2677 01:51:51,470 --> 01:51:50,070 to maybe bring even more than just one 2678 01:51:52,970 --> 01:51:51,480 middle school maybe involved like the 2679 01:51:55,609 --> 01:51:52,980 whole town or something like that in an 2680 01:51:58,580 --> 01:51:55,619 event like that one other thing oh yeah 2681 01:52:02,689 --> 01:51:58,590 I was gonna say you know the more the 2682 01:52:05,209 --> 01:52:02,699 merrier for us to be quite honest a fine 2683 01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:05,219 day for you it would be KSC probably 2684 01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:06,570 unless you're going to go to another 2685 01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:08,489 part of the country but every NASA 2686 01:52:14,300 --> 01:52:11,010 Center has responsibility for a segment 2687 01:52:16,879 --> 01:52:14,310 of the of the US and every state has a 2688 01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:16,889 Space Grant consortium which operates 2689 01:52:21,890 --> 01:52:18,690 out of usually out of the land-grant 2690 01:52:23,149 --> 01:52:21,900 University for that state so I would say 2691 01:52:25,220 --> 01:52:23,159 you know if you're from somewhere that 2692 01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:25,230 doesn't have a NASA Center in it do you 2693 01:52:30,140 --> 01:52:27,690 from Minnesota or Montana or something 2694 01:52:32,569 --> 01:52:30,150 like that just go online and find out 2695 01:52:33,819 --> 01:52:32,579 where the Space Grant consortium is and 2696 01:52:37,729 --> 01:52:33,829 it's probably out of the land-grant 2697 01:52:38,450 --> 01:52:37,739 collagen in in your state and then see 2698 01:52:40,729 --> 01:52:38,460 if they can 2699 01:52:42,260 --> 01:52:40,739 you put together a venue where you're 2700 01:52:44,270 --> 01:52:42,270 gonna have a lot of teachers or a lot of 2701 01:52:46,220 --> 01:52:44,280 students or a lot of both and then 2702 01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:46,230 either go through Leland and education 2703 01:52:51,410 --> 01:52:49,770 or through our communications office if 2704 01:52:52,459 --> 01:52:51,420 you're down here a lot you can you could 2705 01:52:56,360 --> 01:52:52,469 you know you can go through the 2706 01:52:58,310 --> 01:52:56,370 communications office here at at KSC but 2707 01:52:59,600 --> 01:52:58,320 but I would say that's one thing these 2708 01:53:01,150 --> 01:52:59,610 based grants probably the best way to go 2709 01:53:02,930 --> 01:53:01,160 because every network of other 2710 01:53:04,940 --> 01:53:02,940 organizations that are part of them they 2711 01:53:07,820 --> 01:53:04,950 could bring in even other people that 2712 01:53:09,590 --> 01:53:07,830 are NASA centric NASA based so that's a 2713 01:53:12,170 --> 01:53:09,600 good way to do it and the other thing I 2714 01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:12,180 would tell you I wouldn't I would not 2715 01:53:18,650 --> 01:53:14,730 limit it to you know just let your 2716 01:53:21,350 --> 01:53:18,660 imagination run Wow we went to a oh 2717 01:53:23,450 --> 01:53:21,360 shucks David we were at the the new the 2718 01:53:28,430 --> 01:53:23,460 National Museum what's the Museum in New 2719 01:53:32,390 --> 01:53:28,440 York American History Museum and and 2720 01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:32,400 they had a night that was incredible and 2721 01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:35,489 it and it turned out to be a space and 2722 01:53:39,860 --> 01:53:37,410 you know NASA night and everything Neil 2723 01:53:42,140 --> 01:53:39,870 deGrasse Tyson was there for kind of a 2724 01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:42,150 talk and then we all went downstairs and 2725 01:53:49,660 --> 01:53:46,290 stuff and but it was the it wasn't your 2726 01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:49,670 typical NASA crowd it was young 2727 01:53:55,010 --> 01:53:52,050 entrepreneurs who were interested in in 2728 01:53:57,920 --> 01:53:55,020 tech stuff you know high tech and by the 2729 01:54:00,740 --> 01:53:57,930 end of the evening they had a really 2730 01:54:02,750 --> 01:54:00,750 good idea about NASA and the kind of 2731 01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:02,760 stuff we did and they were all looking 2732 01:54:06,470 --> 01:54:04,530 for ways that that they could get 2733 01:54:08,810 --> 01:54:06,480 involved whether it was their business 2734 01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:08,820 or or just because they had a particular 2735 01:54:12,740 --> 01:54:10,410 interest so the only thing I would tell 2736 01:54:14,510 --> 01:54:12,750 you is you know don't don't limit it 2737 01:54:16,580 --> 01:54:14,520 again going back to this don't do the 2738 01:54:18,650 --> 01:54:16,590 science thing don't limit it to a 2739 01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:18,660 particular group of kids because you 2740 01:54:24,500 --> 01:54:21,930 think the others are not interested get 2741 01:54:25,610 --> 01:54:24,510 a get a bunch of athletes Leland can 2742 01:54:27,860 --> 01:54:25,620 tell you about this he's been with 2743 01:54:29,660 --> 01:54:27,870 Donovan McNabb and T at the Donovan 2744 01:54:32,209 --> 01:54:29,670 McNabb football camp teaching the 2745 01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:32,219 physics of football to kids who they 2746 01:54:35,870 --> 01:54:33,690 didn't know they were gonna even hear 2747 01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:35,880 NASA they came out to the Donovan McNabb 2748 01:54:40,550 --> 01:54:38,130 football camp and Donovan talked about 2749 01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:40,560 how why he throws a tight spiral and why 2750 01:54:44,900 --> 01:54:43,170 it gets to where he wants it to go on TV 2751 01:54:48,110 --> 01:54:44,910 every once in a while you'll see Kurt 2752 01:54:51,860 --> 01:54:48,120 Warner if you're a football fan Kurt 2753 01:54:54,370 --> 01:54:51,870 Warner multiple time MVP and the NFL 2754 01:54:57,500 --> 01:54:54,380 the st. the not yeah the st. Louis Rams 2755 01:55:00,620 --> 01:54:57,510 Curt does a public service announcement 2756 01:55:02,930 --> 01:55:00,630 now a real quick spot and he talks about 2757 01:55:05,540 --> 01:55:02,940 the physics of football and and and he 2758 01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:05,550 talks about math trigonometry and 2759 01:55:12,020 --> 01:55:09,210 geometry and how he mentally calculates 2760 01:55:14,720 --> 01:55:12,030 how he gets the ball how he got the ball 2761 01:55:16,820 --> 01:55:14,730 to the receiver and and why he was as 2762 01:55:18,470 --> 01:55:16,830 good as he was you know everybody 2763 01:55:21,020 --> 01:55:18,480 thought he's a bartender and he said you 2764 01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:21,030 know I know a little math and just 2765 01:55:24,860 --> 01:55:23,250 gauging the speed the velocity of 2766 01:55:26,660 --> 01:55:24,870 somebody going from that point to that 2767 01:55:28,130 --> 01:55:26,670 point and trying to figure out what 2768 01:55:32,300 --> 01:55:28,140 angle you have to lead it back that's 2769 01:55:33,890 --> 01:55:32,310 math and and so I would say try to try 2770 01:55:37,210 --> 01:55:33,900 to get kids whether they're in music 2771 01:55:39,650 --> 01:55:37,220 athletics anything bring them out and 2772 01:55:41,870 --> 01:55:39,660 let them talk about sports let them talk 2773 01:55:44,510 --> 01:55:41,880 about music but then throw a little 2774 01:55:46,730 --> 01:55:44,520 stuff in and if we can get an astronaut 2775 01:55:48,170 --> 01:55:46,740 there or a space technologist I can 2776 01:55:51,350 --> 01:55:48,180 guarantee you they'll figure out a way 2777 01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:51,360 to tie what we do into it so I would I 2778 01:55:57,410 --> 01:55:54,810 would definitely not don't focus just on 2779 01:55:59,270 --> 01:55:57,420 kids that people tell you you know are 2780 01:56:01,130 --> 01:55:59,280 interested in science and math and are 2781 01:56:03,170 --> 01:56:01,140 those are the kids that are that are 2782 01:56:06,980 --> 01:56:03,180 really serious because I don't think we 2783 01:56:09,020 --> 01:56:06,990 know to be quite honest okay we'll have 2784 01:56:19,610 --> 01:56:09,030 another song from Beth real quick David 2785 01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:19,620 you have something again it's great I 2786 01:56:22,940 --> 01:56:21,210 can't believe I'm standing between these 2787 01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:22,950 two amazing people in the in the world 2788 01:56:28,970 --> 01:56:26,370 at this moment but speaking of stem 2789 01:56:30,590 --> 01:56:28,980 we've been designing stem lesson plans 2790 01:56:31,970 --> 01:56:30,600 for each song on the on this little 2791 01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:31,980 collection of songs called the mighty 2792 01:56:36,370 --> 01:56:34,050 sky and this is the title song it's 2793 01:56:39,890 --> 01:56:36,380 called the mighty sky 2794 01:56:44,270 --> 01:56:39,900 [Music] 2795 01:56:49,910 --> 01:56:44,280 feathered clouds of golden hues are 2796 01:56:56,660 --> 01:56:49,920 fashioned by the gentle winds a silent 2797 01:57:01,549 --> 01:56:56,670 DOMA stars appears the canopy of night 2798 01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:01,559 descends hidden treasures then are found 2799 01:57:13,529 --> 01:57:08,130 they're subtle glories greet thee and 2800 01:57:20,620 --> 01:57:13,539 the gifts of peace are handed down to 2801 01:57:32,649 --> 01:57:26,600 flying through a ryan you would have to 2802 01:57:37,890 --> 01:57:32,659 go so far through Pro prefers to 2803 01:57:48,319 --> 01:57:44,569 [Music] 2804 01:57:54,260 --> 01:57:48,329 Oh squint your eyes out stretch your 2805 01:57:58,970 --> 01:57:54,270 hand and hold the billion galaxies more 2806 01:58:04,580 --> 01:57:58,980 stars than our grains of sand and each 2807 01:58:10,339 --> 01:58:04,590 with countless mysteries though our feet 2808 01:58:12,939 --> 01:58:10,349 are bound by earth in our hearts we all 2809 01:58:19,350 --> 01:58:12,949 can fly 2810 01:58:27,490 --> 01:58:19,360 and imaginations are since birth as 2811 01:58:32,530 --> 01:58:27,500 children of the mighty sky so little 2812 01:58:38,070 --> 01:58:32,540 sale bastards blue veil along so less 2813 01:58:43,860 --> 01:58:38,080 two streams for all of this our 2814 01:58:55,300 --> 01:58:50,400 [Music] 2815 01:59:00,130 --> 01:58:55,310 hidden treasures that are found they're 2816 01:59:05,430 --> 01:59:00,140 subtle glories greet the eye and gifts 2817 01:59:13,190 --> 01:59:05,440 of feasts are handed down to Watchers of 2818 01:59:21,370 --> 01:59:15,069 [Music] 2819 01:59:21,380 --> 01:59:25,630 the mighty sky 2820 01:59:25,640 --> 01:59:33,980 [Music] 2821 01:59:38,910 --> 01:59:35,700 great job Beth 2822 01:59:47,370 --> 01:59:38,920 any other questions questions don't be 2823 01:59:52,110 --> 01:59:47,380 shy now hedge against involved with NASA 2824 01:59:58,380 --> 01:59:52,120 in your young childhood young childhood 2825 02:00:02,940 --> 01:59:58,390 I I had a experience with a non 2826 02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:02,950 age-appropriate chemistry set that I mix 2827 02:00:06,270 --> 02:00:04,210 these two two similar chemicals together 2828 02:00:07,380 --> 02:00:06,280 and created the most fantastic explosion 2829 02:00:10,770 --> 02:00:07,390 ever known to humankind 2830 02:00:12,060 --> 02:00:10,780 and that flipped the bit in my head and 2831 02:00:14,460 --> 02:00:12,070 I became a chemistry major in college 2832 02:00:16,230 --> 02:00:14,470 and played sports played football I did 2833 02:00:17,790 --> 02:00:16,240 a lot of different things but it wasn't 2834 02:00:19,680 --> 02:00:17,800 until I started working at NASA Langley 2835 02:00:21,270 --> 02:00:19,690 that a friend of mine said Leland you'd 2836 02:00:23,010 --> 02:00:21,280 be a great astronaut I'm like what are 2837 02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:23,020 you talking about astronaut I don't know 2838 02:00:27,420 --> 02:00:24,570 anything about the astronaut thing and 2839 02:00:29,550 --> 02:00:27,430 he handed me an application I looked at 2840 02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:29,560 it put it down and then another friend 2841 02:00:33,780 --> 02:00:32,650 of mine Charlie Kamara who was a good 2842 02:00:36,630 --> 02:00:33,790 friend we worked in a project together 2843 02:00:38,310 --> 02:00:36,640 he got into the Corps that year and so I 2844 02:00:39,210 --> 02:00:38,320 said to myself well if NASA is letting 2845 02:00:42,030 --> 02:00:39,220 knuckleheads like that into the 2846 02:00:43,770 --> 02:00:42,040 astronaut corps I can get in so I 2847 02:00:45,150 --> 02:00:43,780 applied the next year and I got in but 2848 02:00:47,340 --> 02:00:45,160 it was one of the most fantastic things 2849 02:00:49,650 --> 02:00:47,350 and you know Charlie's flown four times 2850 02:00:52,230 --> 02:00:49,660 deployed the Hubble I mean done all this 2851 02:00:55,710 --> 02:00:52,240 stuff but it paled those things pale in 2852 02:00:57,180 --> 02:00:55,720 comparison to when you inspire a kid to 2853 02:00:59,370 --> 02:00:57,190 do whatever they want to believe 2854 02:01:01,440 --> 02:00:59,380 whatever they believe in and I think the 2855 02:01:02,520 --> 02:01:01,450 part of education coming from being an 2856 02:01:04,170 --> 02:01:02,530 astronaut to being in charge of 2857 02:01:05,550 --> 02:01:04,180 Education now is one of the most 2858 02:01:08,580 --> 02:01:05,560 rewarding things that I've ever done 2859 02:01:10,380 --> 02:01:08,590 because I see kids that have never in 2860 02:01:12,030 --> 02:01:10,390 their wildest dreams would have thought 2861 02:01:14,430 --> 02:01:12,040 about being a good scientist or good 2862 02:01:16,950 --> 02:01:14,440 engineer and I'll tell you one story I 2863 02:01:19,200 --> 02:01:16,960 was giving a presentation at NASA 2864 02:01:21,690 --> 02:01:19,210 Goddard brand new astronaut first time 2865 02:01:24,480 --> 02:01:21,700 had never flown or anything these kids 2866 02:01:26,220 --> 02:01:24,490 walked in they fell asleep I was showing 2867 02:01:27,750 --> 02:01:26,230 a picture of dr. Bernard Harris who was 2868 02:01:29,790 --> 02:01:27,760 the first african-american astronaut to 2869 02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:29,800 do a spacewalk medical doctor to this 2870 02:01:34,950 --> 02:01:32,650 young girl woke up looked up saw him 2871 02:01:37,110 --> 02:01:34,960 heard me talk about him she fell back 2872 02:01:38,610 --> 02:01:37,120 asleep and I said I really must be a 2873 02:01:40,710 --> 02:01:38,620 horrible public speaker 2874 02:01:42,540 --> 02:01:40,720 but five years later I was at a 2875 02:01:45,180 --> 02:01:42,550 conference and this young girl walked up 2876 02:01:46,710 --> 02:01:45,190 to me and she says mr. Melvin I remember 2877 02:01:48,870 --> 02:01:46,720 hearing you talk about Bernard Harris 2878 02:01:50,280 --> 02:01:48,880 five years ago and now I'm going to 2879 02:01:52,410 --> 02:01:50,290 medical school and then I'm gonna be a 2880 02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:52,420 doctor so you never know who you're 2881 02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:53,770 gonna impact you never know when they're 2882 02:01:57,000 --> 02:01:55,570 listening and it's just so important 2883 02:01:58,380 --> 02:01:57,010 that you have a good message and 2884 02:02:01,170 --> 02:01:58,390 something to share with them so I think 2885 02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:01,180 I think we all can do that with this 2886 02:02:05,220 --> 02:02:03,130 technology that we have in our hands and 2887 02:02:06,990 --> 02:02:05,230 there are pockets especially you know I 2888 02:02:10,020 --> 02:02:07,000 think about Angry Birds you know ten 2889 02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:10,030 million copies of Angry Birds was sold 2890 02:02:15,330 --> 02:02:13,530 in three days that's a multi 2891 02:02:16,970 --> 02:02:15,340 multi-millionaire and if we can get 2892 02:02:19,350 --> 02:02:16,980 these kids to start thinking about being 2893 02:02:20,910 --> 02:02:19,360 developers of the technology instead of 2894 02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:20,920 just users of the technology 2895 02:02:24,900 --> 02:02:22,810 let them program the iPhone and the 2896 02:02:26,730 --> 02:02:24,910 droids and create something as a middle 2897 02:02:29,130 --> 02:02:26,740 school student they'll be the next few 2898 02:02:30,840 --> 02:02:29,140 jobs so we have to get them thinking 2899 02:02:33,870 --> 02:02:30,850 about the development piece versus just 2900 02:02:35,130 --> 02:02:33,880 the user piece I think that's what I did 2901 02:02:36,990 --> 02:02:35,140 is a kid blowing things up and getting 2902 02:02:39,740 --> 02:02:37,000 in trouble for burning holes and my 2903 02:02:44,870 --> 02:02:39,750 mother's carpet you know Thanks 2904 02:02:48,830 --> 02:02:47,030 so you mentioned Angry Birds and there's 2905 02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:48,840 a space version of Angry Birds can we 2906 02:02:52,450 --> 02:02:50,970 put a radiation belt level in that space 2907 02:02:57,890 --> 02:02:52,460 version of Angry Birds 2908 02:03:01,610 --> 02:02:57,900 David Weaver call Rubio to promote my 2909 02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:01,620 mission we can do anything we're now an 2910 02:03:07,660 --> 02:03:03,930 asset okay so we'll talk okay we'll talk 2911 02:03:11,650 --> 02:03:07,670 we'll talk okay any other questions 2912 02:03:16,820 --> 02:03:11,660 questions any comments 2913 02:03:19,730 --> 02:03:16,830 isn't specifically about rbsp or 2914 02:03:22,190 --> 02:03:19,740 education but does NASA have plans for 2915 02:03:24,140 --> 02:03:22,200 another leadership I think they're 2916 02:03:27,530 --> 02:03:24,150 called leadership class mission like 2917 02:03:31,640 --> 02:03:27,540 curiosity in the like couple billion 2918 02:03:37,280 --> 02:03:31,650 dollar range I'll let my boss handle 2919 02:03:39,140 --> 02:03:37,290 that so one point I read about there's 2920 02:03:40,490 --> 02:03:39,150 these different classes based on the 2921 02:03:42,380 --> 02:03:40,500 kind of the price of the mission and 2922 02:03:45,500 --> 02:03:42,390 that curiosity was the highest the 2923 02:03:47,840 --> 02:03:45,510 leadership class flagship class does 2924 02:03:52,430 --> 02:03:47,850 NASA have plans for another one of those 2925 02:03:55,220 --> 02:03:52,440 in the next few years let me talk very 2926 02:03:58,340 --> 02:03:55,230 quickly about about flagships and other 2927 02:03:59,930 --> 02:03:58,350 kinds of things we are always thinking 2928 02:04:02,380 --> 02:03:59,940 about flagship missions and always 2929 02:04:05,150 --> 02:04:02,390 working with the scientific communities 2930 02:04:06,770 --> 02:04:05,160 waleed will tell you we we're lucky and 2931 02:04:09,530 --> 02:04:06,780 that we get input from the scientific 2932 02:04:11,770 --> 02:04:09,540 community every 10 years and in almost 2933 02:04:14,290 --> 02:04:11,780 every time and it's in specific 2934 02:04:17,120 --> 02:04:14,300 classifications like Earth Science 2935 02:04:19,910 --> 02:04:17,130 planetary science and the like and they 2936 02:04:22,480 --> 02:04:19,920 they they frequently like to present to 2937 02:04:25,100 --> 02:04:22,490 us a proposal for a flagship mission 2938 02:04:26,780 --> 02:04:25,110 what we're trying to do right now and 2939 02:04:29,450 --> 02:04:26,790 what one of the things we asked the folk 2940 02:04:31,670 --> 02:04:29,460 in the Mars program planning group is to 2941 02:04:33,470 --> 02:04:31,680 look at at where NASA's budget sits 2942 02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:33,480 today and look at where it looks like 2943 02:04:37,010 --> 02:04:35,610 we're going in the future and come up 2944 02:04:39,620 --> 02:04:37,020 with something that accomplishes the 2945 02:04:43,640 --> 02:04:39,630 objectives of a flagship mission with a 2946 02:04:47,510 --> 02:04:43,650 less-than flagship price tag you know if 2947 02:04:49,610 --> 02:04:47,520 you look at well we just announced a 2948 02:04:52,580 --> 02:04:49,620 mission called insight to the other day 2949 02:04:54,740 --> 02:04:52,590 which is a discover mission and that's 2950 02:04:58,210 --> 02:04:54,750 the I think I got to get this right the 2951 02:05:01,090 --> 02:04:58,220 lowest price mission we can 2952 02:05:03,850 --> 02:05:01,100 but it's the closest we're gonna get to 2953 02:05:07,110 --> 02:05:03,860 date to a sample return mission because 2954 02:05:09,670 --> 02:05:07,120 you know it's gonna it's gonna study the 2955 02:05:10,990 --> 02:05:09,680 what do I call it the crustal differ if 2956 02:05:13,780 --> 02:05:11,000 we were here on earth I would call it 2957 02:05:14,980 --> 02:05:13,790 crustal deformation earthquakes and 2958 02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:14,990 stuff like that we're looking at we're 2959 02:05:19,960 --> 02:05:16,930 looking for seismic activity on Mars 2960 02:05:22,390 --> 02:05:19,970 we're looking for ways to get samples of 2961 02:05:24,280 --> 02:05:22,400 soil and other kinds of stuff it's not 2962 02:05:26,470 --> 02:05:24,290 going to scoop but it's gonna look deep 2963 02:05:29,170 --> 02:05:26,480 into the Martian surface we have to 2964 02:05:32,970 --> 02:05:29,180 figure out a way in an affordable way to 2965 02:05:34,750 --> 02:05:32,980 get a sample back from Mars so and 2966 02:05:37,810 --> 02:05:34,760 answering your question we're always 2967 02:05:39,400 --> 02:05:37,820 looking at flagship missions but I look 2968 02:05:41,410 --> 02:05:39,410 at them from the perspective of what are 2969 02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:41,420 the scientific objectives that the 2970 02:05:44,830 --> 02:05:43,010 community wants us to accomplish and 2971 02:05:46,870 --> 02:05:44,840 then I challenge the team to say okay 2972 02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:46,880 this is what they want we can't give 2973 02:05:49,900 --> 02:05:47,930 them a sign we can't give them a 2974 02:05:51,460 --> 02:05:49,910 billion-dollar mission but we can give 2975 02:05:54,190 --> 02:05:51,470 them a billion dollars worth of science 2976 02:05:56,890 --> 02:05:54,200 you know for 450 million or whatever it 2977 02:05:59,290 --> 02:05:56,900 is and sometimes we can and when that 2978 02:06:00,430 --> 02:05:59,300 happens then we can we can go forward 2979 02:06:02,140 --> 02:06:00,440 then to the Congress and the 2980 02:06:04,540 --> 02:06:02,150 administration and say this is a 2981 02:06:06,310 --> 02:06:04,550 critical science objective if we're 2982 02:06:08,980 --> 02:06:06,320 going to do this if we're going to put 2983 02:06:11,500 --> 02:06:08,990 humans on Mars we have to do this 2984 02:06:13,810 --> 02:06:11,510 we have looked we have combed everything 2985 02:06:15,850 --> 02:06:13,820 we can think of we cannot come up with a 2986 02:06:17,410 --> 02:06:15,860 way to do it other than this type of 2987 02:06:19,660 --> 02:06:17,420 mission so I think what you're going to 2988 02:06:22,600 --> 02:06:19,670 see us do in the next few years is talk 2989 02:06:24,550 --> 02:06:22,610 more and more about downsize missions 2990 02:06:26,830 --> 02:06:24,560 you know that accomplish big objectives 2991 02:06:27,880 --> 02:06:26,840 but don't have the price tag on them for 2992 02:06:28,870 --> 02:06:27,890 a little while anyway 2993 02:06:32,320 --> 02:06:28,880 I don't know whether I answered your 2994 02:06:34,180 --> 02:06:32,330 question yeah it's always a people don't 2995 02:06:35,920 --> 02:06:34,190 like to hear that to be quite honest and 2996 02:06:38,710 --> 02:06:35,930 and I'll and I'll share with you 2997 02:06:40,300 --> 02:06:38,720 something we actually have people in the 2998 02:06:42,490 --> 02:06:40,310 community who I think have been 2999 02:06:48,940 --> 02:06:42,500 disappointed that that my enthusiasm 3000 02:06:50,020 --> 02:06:48,950 over curiosity is is while robust I'm 3001 02:06:52,120 --> 02:06:50,030 not saying that 3002 02:06:54,010 --> 02:06:52,130 ok curiosity was so successful that 3003 02:06:55,360 --> 02:06:54,020 we're gonna go out and NASA's budget is 3004 02:06:57,760 --> 02:06:55,370 going to be doubled that's not going to 3005 02:07:00,220 --> 02:06:57,770 happen you know that's not realistic and 3006 02:07:02,980 --> 02:07:00,230 and and hopefully you all understand 3007 02:07:04,750 --> 02:07:02,990 that you know it's just look at the 3008 02:07:06,640 --> 02:07:04,760 fiscal time look at look at the 3009 02:07:08,860 --> 02:07:06,650 situation the country is in right now 3010 02:07:11,350 --> 02:07:08,870 and it would be irresponsible for the 3011 02:07:11,770 --> 02:07:11,360 NASA Administrator to go in and say look 3012 02:07:13,600 --> 02:07:11,780 what we 3013 02:07:16,990 --> 02:07:13,610 did we want to double our budget I would 3014 02:07:19,330 --> 02:07:17,000 love to do that but but the but the the 3015 02:07:21,729 --> 02:07:19,340 probability of that occurring is not 3016 02:07:24,279 --> 02:07:21,739 very good and so I want to go in with a 3017 02:07:26,979 --> 02:07:24,289 credible proposal and this is what I've 3018 02:07:29,439 --> 02:07:26,989 said from the day I testified at my 3019 02:07:31,270 --> 02:07:29,449 hearing to be confirmed as the NASA 3020 02:07:32,799 --> 02:07:31,280 Administrator I want to bring you things 3021 02:07:34,629 --> 02:07:32,809 that are realistic that are affordable 3022 02:07:35,680 --> 02:07:34,639 and that are sustainable that are going 3023 02:07:37,419 --> 02:07:35,690 to last through multiple 3024 02:07:39,430 --> 02:07:37,429 administration's and so that's what 3025 02:07:40,660 --> 02:07:39,440 we're trying to do and and if I if I 3026 02:07:42,430 --> 02:07:40,670 went off and told people we're gonna do 3027 02:07:44,649 --> 02:07:42,440 flagship mission in every every field 3028 02:07:47,229 --> 02:07:44,659 right now I'd get left off the planet 3029 02:07:49,689 --> 02:07:47,239 because that's not realistic you know 3030 02:07:50,350 --> 02:07:49,699 and also not sustainable and not 3031 02:07:52,149 --> 02:07:50,360 affordable 3032 02:07:53,979 --> 02:07:52,159 so wouldn't meet it wouldn't meet any of 3033 02:07:56,200 --> 02:07:53,989 my criteria question over there comment 3034 02:07:58,720 --> 02:07:56,210 so so if somebody were to have NASA 3035 02:08:02,080 --> 02:07:58,730 blank check and say go do one of 3036 02:08:04,510 --> 02:08:02,090 whatever you want to do right now what 3037 02:08:06,819 --> 02:08:04,520 what would your wish lists I I don't 3038 02:08:09,520 --> 02:08:06,829 have a wish list for that I you know I 3039 02:08:12,069 --> 02:08:09,530 really try to focus I depend a lot on 3040 02:08:14,529 --> 02:08:12,079 I'm not I'm not the smartest guy in the 3041 02:08:16,149 --> 02:08:14,539 room I don't go to I don't go to any 3042 02:08:18,459 --> 02:08:16,159 meetings where I'm the smartest guy in 3043 02:08:20,709 --> 02:08:18,469 the room and I know that and I really 3044 02:08:22,359 --> 02:08:20,719 depend on the leaders in the agency to 3045 02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:22,369 advise me on where we ought to be going 3046 02:08:27,580 --> 02:08:25,010 I I love education my mom and dad we're 3047 02:08:29,680 --> 02:08:27,590 educators I don't I don't tangle with 3048 02:08:31,750 --> 02:08:29,690 Leland when it comes to education you 3049 02:08:33,790 --> 02:08:31,760 know because Leland has a professional 3050 02:08:35,529 --> 02:08:33,800 team people who spent their life in 3051 02:08:37,270 --> 02:08:35,539 education and they may not always have 3052 02:08:40,689 --> 02:08:37,280 it right but they got a lot better idea 3053 02:08:42,370 --> 02:08:40,699 than I do and so it would be it would be 3054 02:08:45,279 --> 02:08:42,380 foolhardy for me to try to tell you this 3055 02:08:47,740 --> 02:08:45,289 is my dream I don't have one single 3056 02:08:50,080 --> 02:08:47,750 thing I want to do everything that's why 3057 02:08:52,149 --> 02:08:50,090 I'm the NASA Administrator but I have 3058 02:08:54,850 --> 02:08:52,159 incredibly professional people competent 3059 02:08:56,770 --> 02:08:54,860 and capable people who say this is what 3060 02:09:00,279 --> 02:08:56,780 we should try to do now because that's 3061 02:09:02,620 --> 02:09:00,289 the next logical step you know to to 3062 02:09:03,700 --> 02:09:02,630 putting humans father-in in the universe 3063 02:09:05,740 --> 02:09:03,710 than we've ever been before 3064 02:09:07,359 --> 02:09:05,750 my granddaughter's tell me they think 3065 02:09:09,819 --> 02:09:07,369 I'm short-sighted because I always talk 3066 02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:09,829 about Mars well for me you know that's 3067 02:09:15,490 --> 02:09:13,250 the that's the best conceivable 3068 02:09:17,979 --> 02:09:15,500 destinations for destination for humans 3069 02:09:19,359 --> 02:09:17,989 right now I'm not five years six years 3070 02:09:21,279 --> 02:09:19,369 old like my like my youngest 3071 02:09:23,589 --> 02:09:21,289 granddaughter my youngest granddaughter 3072 02:09:24,950 --> 02:09:23,599 thinks about going you know beyond the 3073 02:09:26,960 --> 02:09:24,960 solar system I 3074 02:09:29,000 --> 02:09:26,970 when I was her age and I thought about 3075 02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:29,010 going to Mars back then you know in the 3076 02:09:33,740 --> 02:09:31,530 50s I was just like them thinking about 3077 02:09:35,660 --> 02:09:33,750 you know going warp speed and all that 3078 02:09:38,690 --> 02:09:35,670 kind of stuff today to them that's gonna 3079 02:09:40,370 --> 02:09:38,700 happen to me Mars was gonna happen and I 3080 02:09:44,150 --> 02:09:40,380 still think Mars is gonna happen and I'm 3081 02:09:45,890 --> 02:09:44,160 I'm I am dedicated to that so you know 3082 02:09:48,500 --> 02:09:45,900 we don't work fast enough for a lot of 3083 02:09:50,060 --> 02:09:48,510 people and I wish I could tell you some 3084 02:09:51,890 --> 02:09:50,070 one thing that I would like to do I 3085 02:09:53,720 --> 02:09:51,900 don't ever get to talk about Aeronautics 3086 02:09:56,420 --> 02:09:53,730 very much in this group you know my 3087 02:09:59,300 --> 02:09:56,430 passion my heart my gut is in 3088 02:10:01,370 --> 02:09:59,310 aeronautics because we do incredible 3089 02:10:04,250 --> 02:10:01,380 things for the nation with our aDNA 3090 02:10:06,260 --> 02:10:04,260 Aeronautics research you know you can 3091 02:10:07,640 --> 02:10:06,270 fly from point A to point B faster than 3092 02:10:09,530 --> 02:10:07,650 you've ever done before safer than 3093 02:10:11,480 --> 02:10:09,540 you've ever done before in cleaner 3094 02:10:13,820 --> 02:10:11,490 airplanes than ever before quieter 3095 02:10:15,410 --> 02:10:13,830 airplanes and and I will brag about it 3096 02:10:17,330 --> 02:10:15,420 that's because of NASA Aeronautics and 3097 02:10:19,250 --> 02:10:17,340 they did and they do it on a shoestring 3098 02:10:20,870 --> 02:10:19,260 that's where I would like to get more 3099 02:10:22,280 --> 02:10:20,880 money if you want to yeah is there 3100 02:10:24,500 --> 02:10:22,290 something that that really is 3101 02:10:25,280 --> 02:10:24,510 undergrowth li underfunded it's it's 3102 02:10:27,170 --> 02:10:25,290 aeronautics 3103 02:10:30,380 --> 02:10:27,180 to be quite honest and that's the big a 3104 02:10:32,480 --> 02:10:30,390 in NASA but but just through through the 3105 02:10:35,420 --> 02:10:32,490 years it you know we've kind of dwindled 3106 02:10:37,640 --> 02:10:35,430 but but the people did not give up on 3107 02:10:39,290 --> 02:10:37,650 their dedication to the field and so 3108 02:10:41,720 --> 02:10:39,300 that's why we still do great stuff I 3109 02:10:43,790 --> 02:10:41,730 have talked too long and I've got to go 3110 02:10:46,040 --> 02:10:43,800 but I again I want to thank you all very 3111 02:10:48,110 --> 02:10:46,050 much you said one more question oh one 3112 02:10:50,180 --> 02:10:48,120 more question I'm sorry I just wanted to 3113 02:10:53,060 --> 02:10:50,190 take this opportunity to thank you for 3114 02:10:55,580 --> 02:10:53,070 NASA's commitment to education I went to 3115 02:10:57,980 --> 02:10:55,590 college on a space grant scholarship and 3116 02:11:00,710 --> 02:10:57,990 I'm now part of the RBS PU science team 3117 02:11:02,990 --> 02:11:00,720 and I'm really thrilled with with the 3118 02:11:16,940 --> 02:11:03,000 launch coming up so thank you I'm not 3119 02:11:22,170 --> 02:11:20,070 well I like to say that this has been a 3120 02:11:25,230 --> 02:11:22,180 very moving experience for me because 3121 02:11:26,850 --> 02:11:25,240 Beth Neilsen and Charlie here have they 3122 02:11:28,650 --> 02:11:26,860 always inspired me when they talk and 3123 02:11:31,770 --> 02:11:28,660 when they play and I'm just very very 3124 02:11:33,270 --> 02:11:31,780 humbled and blessed to have them here do 3125 02:11:35,460 --> 02:11:33,280 we have time for one more any more 3126 02:11:40,410 --> 02:11:35,470 questions or a few more questions or we 3127 02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:40,420 want to wrap it up when I hear yeah I I 3128 02:11:45,210 --> 02:11:43,330 work I do something on it I do a little 3129 02:11:47,400 --> 02:11:45,220 bit of outreach within an observatory or 3130 02:11:49,890 --> 02:11:47,410 I live and my question is kind of along 3131 02:11:51,690 --> 02:11:49,900 the lines of Neil deGrasse Tyson you 3132 02:11:53,730 --> 02:11:51,700 know children are great but they're kind 3133 02:11:55,740 --> 02:11:53,740 of naturally curious my thing is always 3134 02:11:58,290 --> 02:11:55,750 with adults the parents that are gonna 3135 02:11:59,790 --> 02:11:58,300 be influencing these child's life for 3136 02:12:01,740 --> 02:11:59,800 the rest of their lives how do you get 3137 02:12:03,660 --> 02:12:01,750 the adults to kind of get out of there 3138 02:12:05,670 --> 02:12:03,670 they're you know stuck in ways because 3139 02:12:07,470 --> 02:12:05,680 they're quite honestly sometimes harder 3140 02:12:10,440 --> 02:12:07,480 than children to influence in that 3141 02:12:12,990 --> 02:12:10,450 manner children you know can be kind of 3142 02:12:14,640 --> 02:12:13,000 more easily influenced what what kind of 3143 02:12:16,500 --> 02:12:14,650 programs do you guys do you do any work 3144 02:12:18,420 --> 02:12:16,510 with adults or you have any insights on 3145 02:12:21,660 --> 02:12:18,430 that we have a program called SEMA and 3146 02:12:24,540 --> 02:12:21,670 it's where we actually have kids to come 3147 02:12:27,000 --> 02:12:24,550 in on the weekend to do we have these 3148 02:12:29,850 --> 02:12:27,010 SEMA sites where the kids do hands-on 3149 02:12:31,380 --> 02:12:29,860 stuff they build robots they have they 3150 02:12:33,330 --> 02:12:31,390 have little weather stations they do 3151 02:12:35,700 --> 02:12:33,340 programming and different things but we 3152 02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:35,710 also bring their parents in and they're 3153 02:12:39,360 --> 02:12:37,690 taking classes and understanding about 3154 02:12:40,560 --> 02:12:39,370 the things that their kids need to be 3155 02:12:42,540 --> 02:12:40,570 scientists and engineers and their 3156 02:12:44,640 --> 02:12:42,550 understanding about what it's like to 3157 02:12:47,220 --> 02:12:44,650 see their kids building a robot and then 3158 02:12:48,810 --> 02:12:47,230 we tell them you can go home and do 3159 02:12:50,370 --> 02:12:48,820 these other types of things you can go 3160 02:12:52,800 --> 02:12:50,380 to our website and acidophilus our 3161 02:12:55,050 --> 02:12:52,810 education and do projects with your kids 3162 02:12:56,940 --> 02:12:55,060 at home and so that's a way that get 3163 02:12:59,100 --> 02:12:56,950 them engaged but also we have other 3164 02:13:02,220 --> 02:12:59,110 outreach programs David we every shop is 3165 02:13:04,800 --> 02:13:02,230 trying to get more community-based type 3166 02:13:07,830 --> 02:13:04,810 things where we have an astronomy night 3167 02:13:10,380 --> 02:13:07,840 and parents and neil degrasse tyson's 3168 02:13:12,270 --> 02:13:10,390 come and you know the whole community 3169 02:13:14,520 --> 02:13:12,280 comes out to see and witness this type 3170 02:13:15,900 --> 02:13:14,530 of activity and so the kids are inspired 3171 02:13:17,940 --> 02:13:15,910 the parents are now starting to 3172 02:13:19,920 --> 02:13:17,950 understand what it means to grow a 3173 02:13:21,330 --> 02:13:19,930 scientist or an engineer and those are 3174 02:13:23,009 --> 02:13:21,340 the types of things I think that will 3175 02:13:24,389 --> 02:13:23,019 help the community and the parent 3176 02:13:26,519 --> 02:13:24,399 to get a better understanding of what 3177 02:13:28,199 --> 02:13:26,529 they need to do for their kids but and 3178 02:13:30,479 --> 02:13:28,209 it takes you guys to spread that message 3179 02:13:33,179 --> 02:13:30,489 to you have parents you have 3180 02:13:35,819 --> 02:13:33,189 grandparents share that message with 3181 02:13:38,879 --> 02:13:35,829 them go talk to a teacher you know those 3182 02:13:50,449 --> 02:13:38,889 are all ways to spread that message all 3183 02:13:55,289 --> 02:13:53,009 well everybody that concludes our NASA 3184 02:13:57,000 --> 02:13:55,299 social for today for the launch of the 3185 02:13:58,829 --> 02:13:57,010 radiation belt storm probes which is 3186 02:14:01,229 --> 02:13:58,839 scheduled to happen tomorrow morning in 3187 02:14:03,449 --> 02:14:01,239 the wee hours on Friday morning at 4:07 3188 02:14:05,129 --> 02:14:03,459 a.m. Eastern Time we hope that you'll 3189 02:14:08,789 --> 02:14:05,139 follow along online by following the 3190 02:14:11,459 --> 02:14:08,799 @nasa or at our bee storm probes twitter 3191 02:14:13,500 --> 02:14:11,469 accounts or you can like us on facebook 3192 02:14:16,500 --> 02:14:13,510 on the nasa or the radiation belt 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